Congress to grant FDA approval to regulate tobacco

[Kate]

If you crave tobacco and find that a little extra vaped nicotine helps calm you I wouldn't be too worried. It's worse to go back to smoking than it is to take some more 'clean' nicotine. As long as you know what you're doing and don't constantly take high doses you won't develop tolerance and dependence.

The average amount of eliquid to use is 2ml per day.

I vape almost constantly and don't worry about how much because I use zero or low unless I get a craving, then I drip a couple of drops of medium or high and that works well. I probably don't use more than 0.5ml of medium or high a day.

[MisterPuck]

If you crave tobacco and find that a little extra vaped nicotine helps calm you I wouldn't be too worried. It's worse to go back to smoking than it is to take some more 'clean' nicotine. As long as you know what you're doing and don't constantly take high doses you won't develop tolerance and dependence.

The average amount of eliquid to use is 2ml per day.

I vape almost constantly and don't worry about how much because I use zero or low unless I get a craving, then I drip a couple of drops of medium or high and that works well. I probably don't use more than 0.5ml of medium or high a day.

I vape non stop on the 18mg, I should likely cut down some, but I find I am still getting less than I was on analogs, so I'm not so stressed about it.

[Kitabz]

If you crave tobacco and find that a little extra vaped nicotine helps calm you I wouldn't be too worried. It's worse to go back to smoking than it is to take some more 'clean' nicotine. As long as you know what you're doing and don't constantly take high doses you won't develop tolerance and dependence.

Yes, I'd agree with this too - better to have more nicotine than you'd prefer than go back to analogs because you're craving too much.

In the beginning I was puffing almost constantly (to the point of headache sometimes - oops). Now-a-days it's more like cigarette smoking - a few puffs every 15-30 minutes (or I use zero-nic if I'm in the mood to just blast away for the hell of it).

As Kate has said, having some higher strength stuff to hand is useful for those moments when you REALLY REALLY want an old fashioned cigarette. Thankfully - for me at least - those moments are rare; I can think of only two or three times in the past month when I suffered this.)

[bizzyb0t]

Hopefully this isn't off topic, and I don't know if I can yet post links, but I found this article particularly interesting as a possible reason why Big Tobacco (i.e. Philip Morris) would welcome regulation of its industry. I only bring this article to your attention, because it raises soem interesting questions as to how Big tobacco, the FDA, and the drug companies could partner to control nicotine. I don't know the credibility of the author or organization, but nonetheless, the topics are intriguing.

http://forces.org/writers/kjono/pdf/...regulation.pdf

(I edited the quote to make a live link)

Thank you for that PDF link. It only served to further confirm my suspicions.

[TropicalBob]

I cannot overstate how important it is to read the link Dude provided. Here it is (because I CAN post links: http://www.forces.org/writers/kjono/...regulation.pdf

It has always been Follow the Money. And this shows were the money will be going in future years. It makes clear that our old enemies are exactly the ones we feared since e-smoking began: Big Pharma, Big Tobacco and Big Government. Put an asterisk beside Big Tobacco, because the only winner here will be Philip Morris. And note its inhaler was patented years before Ruyan's Chinese model. A Ruyan lawsuit would be a joke.

This article will help explain what it happening now, and where this is heading. The FDA will soon have power over tobacco products. Nicotine levels will be decreased, forcing even more smokers to attempt quitting. Big Pharma rakes in billions on NRT products.

But along came e-smoking. What a nuisance development! It will be banned, swatted into non-existance precisely because it did not follow the plan. Philip Morris is following the plan. Big Pharma is following the plan. PM's Aria inhaler will be legal. Anything we now use will be illegal.

This article, while not a "press" piece, has good research and logical projections. You can see the pieces of the puzzle now being put into place. Can you see the final picture that puzzle reveals? What you won't see in it are Ruyan and nJoy and Janty and SmokingEverywhere e-cigs. The image looks like a nicotine inhaler called Aria, surrounded by NRT products you can use forever.

And beneath the surface image will dance billions of dollar bills.

[outofstep]

Don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm a new member and I can't post in the forum yet. I'm just curious if there is any organized effort from e-smokers, suppliers, manufactures, and distributors to make our voice heard?

I'm afraid the news will only get worse because big companies have a very big economic incentive to do what they can to ban e-cigarettes.

[Kate]

The nearest we have come as a community to getting organised is the activists forum, Right to Vape - Right To Vape - Index

[TropicalBob]

We'll have no say in this decision, no matter what we do. Trog accurately pointed out that if a regulatory agency wants to ban these, it will find reasons to do so. If it wants to approve them, it will find reasons to do so. And that's truth. You can go to rightovape.com and groan/protest with others.

Meanwhile, every e-smoker does need to read this link, so we have shared knowledge. http://www.forces.org/writers/kjono/...regulation.pdf

[Kate]

"... You can go to rightovape.com and groan/protest with others. ..."

That's not very fair TBob, all the moaners seem to be elsewhere, the people at RtV are trying to have constructive dialogue. We may not get far but it's better than hanging around ringing our hands and saying 'woe'.

[TropicalBob]

Sorry. Go to right to vape for some constructive dialogue.

Meanwhile, read the PDF and know thy enemy.