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leaford · 04-05-2009, 11:07 PM

Not to even get into the are/were debate, but...

Are the two questions "Are you a smoker," and "do you know a smoker," meant to be mutually exclusionary? As in, you EITHER are a smoker, OR you know one? Because I think most people who ARE a smoker, probably KNOW at least one other smoker. :-)

Amd for that matter, realistically, even if one is not a smoker, how likely is it that you don't even KNOW a smoker? Really? And how would you even know that for sure? Is it a useful question?

Similarly the pair of questions "I have purchased an e-cig," and "I would purchase an e-cig." I checked both. I think most of us here who have, would.

Really, I checked almost all but a couple of those. If the poll questions are soo loosely defined that people can check nearly all, it's not going to gather very good or useful data.

esmok-e · 04-05-2009, 11:15 PM

I could be wrong but, I still think we can work with the data. We can work out questions together beforehand for another poll or go for the "Roman forum" contest style and everyone puts up his own. I gave it a shot, I'll look at the data in a graph and table and see how it looks. Adjustments can be made for underage, non-smokers etc., based on the percentiles accordingly. I'm not a pro at this at all but I thought it would be a start. I'm happy to be bested.
I asked for this awhile back. Let's come up with THE 15 questions, agree and do it again.

leaford · 04-05-2009, 11:18 PM

See, look at these numbers, I'm not the only one to check most. These are the kind of polls that bad science data mines cherry picked "statistics" from to appear to support their ideas. "97.7% of e-smokers are of legal age!" Never mind that there isn't even an option to vote that you aren't. Never mind that this forum is SUPPOSEDLY restricted to those of legal age, so the fact that number isn't 100% throws then entire validty of it into doubt. Somebody's lying about something one way or the other, so it's all questionable.

Sorry to knock your effort, we need to gather data and I applaud the attempt. I hope you take this as constructive.

leaford · 04-05-2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esmok-e

I could be wrong but, I still think we can work with the data. We can work out questions together beforehand for another poll or go for the "Roman forum" contest style and everyone puts up his own. I gave it a shot, I'll look at the data in a graph and table and see how it looks. Adjustments can be made for underage, non-smokers etc., based on the percentiles accordingly. I'm not a pro at this at all but I thought it would be a start. I'm happy to be bested.
I asked for this awhile back. Let's come up with THE 15 questions, agree and do it again.

Can't do THE 15 questions. THE subject is too broad. See DC2K's example. Lots more than 15 questions,multiple choices and yues no, as appropriate, "other" options. And he still just skimmed over the subject broadly.

For 15 questions, you would have to break it down into sub-subjects. 15 questions on prior smoking, 15 questions on vaping habits, etc. And the forum poll system just doesn't let you construct it properly. Again, DC2K found a good format, try that for your next version.

breakfastchef · 04-05-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surbitonPete

20% of underage vapers sure doesn't look good.

Agreed. Rather disturbing; at least to me.

esmok-e · 04-06-2009, 01:22 AM

Ok, let's do that one, it's much, much better. There are some typos and it seems that some 1 to 10s are backwards like "...How easy was it to quit" and 10 is "extremely difficult". That's me and probably moot. Question numbers would be good too. Alphabetize flavors...

Leave it to Google! Should've known.... however: you can fill it out any number of times and submit galore, tho', answer one or answer 'em all - over and over again. Need an IP check or e-mail (kept private) and a little captcha thingie wouldn't hurt.

I would theenk dees ees a beeg problemo, no? Can this be fixed in this beta app?

So much for scientific.

PLEASE CAN ANYONE OUT THERE DO THIS RIGHT BEFORE ROLLING IT OUT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewf...RnTE1kR3c6MA..

pegling · 04-06-2009, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strayling

I loved being able to leave the "I am a smoker" box unchecked

That was my favorite part too!

surbitonPete · 04-06-2009, 10:44 AM

oops made a mistake

Chevron07 · 04-06-2009, 02:50 PM

"I have not been able to quit yet"...I took that as "not able to quit prior to vaping". Is that what you were going for, or is it redundant with "I have completely switched to e-device"? Or do you mean quit smoking analogs and e-device?

Also, the under legal age people may be those who are looking into this on behalf of an older loved one and not looking into for their own use.

tribalmasters · 04-06-2009, 08:10 PM

ohh it got stickied!!

View Poll Results: Please Select From the Choices (Multiple Choices Allowed)
I am over the legal age to smoke.	418	96.98%
I am a smoker.	281	65.20%
I know a smoker(s).	262	60.79%
I have purchased and used an electronic cigarette.	396	91.88%
I would purchase and use an electronic cigarette.	122	28.31%
I think electronic cigarettes should replace tobacco cigarettes.	239	55.45%
I have partially switched to an electronic device.	110	25.52%
I have completely switched to an electronic device.	294	68.21%
Electronic cigarettes are safer and healthier than tobacco cigarettes.	362	83.99%
Electronic cigarettes need to be regulated by the government.	61	14.15%
Electronic cigarettes should be made in the US.	275	63.81%
Electronic Vaporette is a better name than Electronic Cigarette.	127	29.47%
My doctor says I have to quit smoking.	104	24.13%
I have not been able to quit smoking yet.	104	24.13%
Smoking tobacco cigarettes has impacted my health or those around me.	277	64.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 431. You may not vote on this poll

04-05-2009, 11:07 PM	#21
leaford Supplier/ECF Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 3,026 Blog Entries: 4	Not to even get into the are/were debate, but... Are the two questions "Are you a smoker," and "do you know a smoker," meant to be mutually exclusionary? As in, you EITHER are a smoker, OR you know one? Because I think most people who ARE a smoker, probably KNOW at least one other smoker. :-) Amd for that matter, realistically, even if one is not a smoker, how likely is it that you don't even KNOW a smoker? Really? And how would you even know that for sure? Is it a useful question? Similarly the pair of questions "I have purchased an e-cig," and "I would purchase an e-cig." I checked both. I think most of us here who have, would. Really, I checked almost all but a couple of those. If the poll questions are soo loosely defined that people can check nearly all, it's not going to gather very good or useful data. __________________ New VP of Product Development at www.Vapor4Life.com, author of E-Cigarette Review and Advice Blog www.E-Smoker-Forever.com, and creator of The Leaford Lanyard. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. – Carl Sagan, 1934 – 1996

04-05-2009, 11:15 PM	#22
esmok-e Suppliers Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U$A $ponsoring $upplier (NJ) Posts: 363	I could be wrong but, I still think we can work with the data. We can work out questions together beforehand for another poll or go for the "Roman forum" contest style and everyone puts up his own. I gave it a shot, I'll look at the data in a graph and table and see how it looks. Adjustments can be made for underage, non-smokers etc., based on the percentiles accordingly. I'm not a pro at this at all but I thought it would be a start. I'm happy to be bested. I asked for this awhile back. Let's come up with THE 15 questions, agree and do it again. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] _{eSmoke - A Breath of Hope For Smokers}

04-05-2009, 11:18 PM	#23
leaford Supplier/ECF Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 3,026 Blog Entries: 4	See, look at these numbers, I'm not the only one to check most. These are the kind of polls that bad science data mines cherry picked "statistics" from to appear to support their ideas. "97.7% of e-smokers are of legal age!" Never mind that there isn't even an option to vote that you aren't. Never mind that this forum is SUPPOSEDLY restricted to those of legal age, so the fact that number isn't 100% throws then entire validty of it into doubt. Somebody's lying about something one way or the other, so it's all questionable. Sorry to knock your effort, we need to gather data and I applaud the attempt. I hope you take this as constructive. __________________ New VP of Product Development at www.Vapor4Life.com, author of E-Cigarette Review and Advice Blog www.E-Smoker-Forever.com, and creator of The Leaford Lanyard. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. – Carl Sagan, 1934 – 1996

04-06-2009, 01:22 AM	#26
esmok-e Suppliers Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U$A $ponsoring $upplier (NJ) Posts: 363	Ok, let's do that one, it's much, much better. There are some typos and it seems that some 1 to 10s are backwards like "...How easy was it to quit" and 10 is "extremely difficult". That's me and probably moot. Question numbers would be good too. Alphabetize flavors... Leave it to Google! Should've known.... however: you can fill it out any number of times and submit galore, tho', answer one or answer 'em all - over and over again. Need an IP check or e-mail (kept private) and a little captcha thingie wouldn't hurt. I would theenk dees ees a beeg problemo, no? Can this be fixed in this beta app? So much for scientific. PLEASE CAN ANYONE OUT THERE DO THIS RIGHT BEFORE ROLLING IT OUT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR? http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewf...RnTE1kR3c6MA.. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] _{eSmoke - A Breath of Hope For Smokers} Last edited by esmok-e; 04-06-2009 at 02:43 AM.

04-06-2009, 10:44 AM	#28
surbitonPete ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Yorkshire UK Posts: 2,892	oops made a mistake __________________ It's time to 'really' do something about changing this world for the better, click the link:- http://thevenusproject.com Last edited by surbitonPete; 04-06-2009 at 10:46 AM. Reason: mistake

04-06-2009, 02:50 PM	#29
Chevron07 Full Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 65	"I have not been able to quit yet"...I took that as "not able to quit prior to vaping". Is that what you were going for, or is it redundant with "I have completely switched to e-device"? Or do you mean quit smoking analogs and e-device? Also, the under legal age people may be those who are looking into this on behalf of an older loved one and not looking into for their own use. __________________

04-06-2009, 08:10 PM	#30
tribalmasters ECF Veteran x2 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,835 Blog Entries: 1	ohh it got stickied!! __________________ Smoke free since June 08 thanks to Mr Penstyle and Mr 901 ohh and Mr Janty

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