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Old 06-10-2009, 01:52 PM   #121
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I've just found this, does anyone know if it's accurate?

I have never seen that, I have read about Constantine, but I never read that. he was the suppostly first Christian caesar. Where did you find that?
Very intersting.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:50 PM   #122
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I found it on a silly pop culture site - B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB

It wouldn't surprise me if it was made up (it wouldn't surprise me if it was true either, lol).

There are so many lies in Christianity it's hard to believe any of it at all.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:14 PM   #123
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I've just found this, does anyone know if it's accurate?

I can't see it Kate.

Ohh...I'm at worked and the site you posted is blocked. It has probably blocked what you posted too if it's linked to it somehow...maybe?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:19 PM   #124
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Here it is again, I've just loaded it to photobucket Sandy, it might work for you now.


Sandy, do you think that karma could be classed as a natural law? For you does it correspond to ethical and moral behaviours that benefit nature?
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:28 AM   #125
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I found it on a silly pop culture site - B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB

It wouldn't surprise me if it was made up (it wouldn't surprise me if it was true either, lol).

There are so many lies in Christianity it's hard to believe any of it at all.
I am totally shocked . That anyone would think those good christians would tell us lies.

There are some people that actually live according to their christian believes and I enjoy knowing them. They are good people.

I had to teach my husband a lesson, and that is don't contract for work with someone that is praying over their work, while bidding on a job. Your going to get scamed.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:59 AM   #126
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Interesting. Accurate? Why not? After all there were sixteen Crucified Saviours Christianity Before Christ.

I came from a strongly religious Southern Baptist family and was taught that the bible was infallible, came from God himself. Being totally deaf (lost all my hearing at 3 years old .. true cause is unknown) I was very curious, wanting to know more, bored easily because back then there was no close captioning on TV/Movie, no internet, no phone for the deaf...nothing so I started to read more and more. My mind was overactive, always scanning for deeper things. I became interested in astronomy, archaelogy, mythology, legends, folk lores, religion, different races/cultures..even geology. I used to collect those yellow National Geographic magazines. I consider myself a free thinker with rational mind to objectively evaluate the evidence.

I came across Acharya S aka D.M. Murdock in 2001 and joined her discussion group.

Go to www.truthbeknown.com you will get to know more.

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The sun-god religions were world-wide and told similar myths. The general mythological pattern was that the sun, creating itself miraculously by virgin birth, took human form on earth, taught important lessons, then died and was reborn and returned to heaven. Osiris in Egypt, Dionysius in Greece, Mithra in Persia, Krishna in India, Buddha in Asia, (these being only the better known examples), their stories all preceded Jesus by many centuries. And all were mythological metaphors for the sun-god. The Jesus story is only the latest iteration of the myth. That so many think it is the one true story is a good example of the adage: the victors write the history books.
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Allah has got about one hundred "beautiful names". A poem from the 12th century B.C. grants to the Babylonian God Marduk about 50 names, coming from the defeated and assimilated deities. Most of these will qualify Allah.

The word Allah comes from the Sumerian divinity Lilitu, evolving in Lilith (the Mother-Goddess of the Hebrew), and then in Al-ilat (that of the Arabs), but also in El, God, in akkadian. One finds also in Arabic Ala, 'to be terrified'. The name Allah has certainly been the masculine form that the original name Al-ilat has taken.
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Here it is again, I've just loaded it to photobucket Sandy, it might work for you now.


Sandy, do you think that karma could be classed as a natural law?
I've tried to answer this 3 times now and people keep stopping by and wanting me to work! The nerve of some people...I don't come to work to work!

Thanks for putting that there for me Kate. I have never heard that before, but I wouldn't be surprised. Constantine was basically the creator of the religion and many elements are incorporated into it from pagan religions.

To answer your question, I would have to say that karma is a law in itself, although the word law implies a lawgiver. It doesn't rely on any external force, but from within oneself. It could be compared to the saying, "give and you shall receive." or "you reap what you sow." The cause and the effect are present in the intial action itself like the oak is present in the acorn.

It's actions of the body, mind and mouth or behavior, thoughts and speech. Every action remains with us forever. We may be able to change our habits, thoughts or action, but the prior ones will always be with us.

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I don't know if it really has anything to do with any preferred behavior. It includes both the good and the bad. We could only know if it is beneficial by the fruit (Vipaka) any action bears.

I don't know enough about it as I want to because I have a tendency to ask, "what is good and what is bad?" That, to me, is relative. A burning forest causes death, suffering for animals and destruction but later, it thrives in plush green grasses and new life. Kali strikes...
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It is true that there is no letter "J" in Hebrew. My understanding of the spelling is unsure but it is pronounced "Ya-Shew-Ah" And God translates to "Ya-Ha-Vey" It seems that Ya-shew-ah means "Gods Savior".

As for the earlier question on re-incarnation, I understand it to be the coming back to earth after death as another person or animal, not just going to the afterlife.

For translations of the Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek you need a "Strong's concordance" to cross reference every word and not lose the intended meanings.

(sorry so long with reply, out of town all week)
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:50 PM   #130
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I've bookmarked that forum Bryn, thanks, it looks interesting

I think I get what you're saying Sandy, it's not about good and bad in human terms. When I think of karma I tend to think of it as a natural law with constant truth beyond human intervention or enforcement. Maybe comparable with the laws of physics. It's mostly just a mystery to me - karma moves in mysterious ways

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