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Old 06-13-2009, 06:10 AM   #131
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Kate, I posted your question about how Emperor Constantine created religion for his empire on truth be known forum in General Discussion area.

Let's see if someone answers. I used to belong to Acharya S' discussion group called "Fun to Superconscious" in 2001 before it changed to yahoo style. I am not crazy about yahoo group discussion because it's hard to follow so later I found another one of hers so I joined in 2007, but never posted until recently! I know why I didn't... Shane's demise. Took me long time to come to terms with her death, couldn't connect with anyone/anything and I went spiraling downward in depression and sadness. I am okay now.

Anyway, can't wait to see answer to your question.

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Old 06-13-2009, 03:15 PM   #132
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Someone from Italy answered!

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I don't think so. It's true that Constantine at Nicea heavily modified the figure of Jesus to include the traits of many sun-gods, but the original figure of Jesus Christ was invented by the greek speaking Jewish community of Alexandria in Egypt (this is why the original gospels are in greek). I suggest you to read the chapter "The Alexandrian Roots of Christianity", in the latest Acharya book, Christ in Egypt.
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Thanks Bryn, that's very interesting.

I suspect that the person known as Jesus was mostly real and did behave as a mentor or guru. The 'saviour' and 'God' stuff has never rung true for me, I'm fairly convinced that all the bells and whistles were added by politicos to impress and give authority to a system of control they wanted to introduce.

That forum looks very interesting. I'm going to try to spend some time reading there.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:11 AM   #134
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Kate, you've been banned I hope it's temporary. You're needed here in The Order of the Wholey Technofoggers. We will keep the light in the window for you to find your way back home.

Acharya answered my question (your question actually) from her forum. It's long and very interesting. It's up to people to read with an open mind.

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This particular scenario was worked out by Dr. Hilton Hotema, who said the following:

Ancient man personified the Sun as Brahma, Krishna, Amun, Abram, Adonis, Apollo, Osiris, Bel, Malkarth, Mithras, Hesus, etc....

The ancient Hindus called the Sun "Kris." In their religion, Krishna was a personification of the Sun. As time passed this was forgotten, and Krishna evolved into an actual man, said to have been born of a virgin.

It came to pass that Krishna was imported to Europe, and the Greeks called him Christos. The Romans called him Chrustus, and the English called him "CHRIST."

The ancient Druids called the Sun "Hesus." At the Nicean Council the names were joined into Hesus Christus, and later changed by the English to Jesus Christ.

It requires only a knowledge of the name of the Sun-God in different languages to understand from whence came the name Jesus Christ....

Compilation of the New Testament involved much labor. The church fathers had access to all the ancient literature collected and filed in the great Alexandrian library, in which they did their work.

From that mass of literature they culled what they wanted and destroyed the rest.... (Hotema, Awaken the World Within, 315-316)
In his "Introduction" to Massey's Egyptian Book of the Dead, Hotema states:

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We must review some ancient history to show how the scheme was invented and how it developed. The scheme was formulated in the Nicean Council of bishops, convened under the orders of the Roman Emperor Constantine and directed by him.

From the days of Julius Caesar down to Constantine, the Romans had permitted the people of the conquered countries to observe their religious systems and continue the worship of their particular gods. This course continued until the time came when the discordant religious waves of the east and west met with a riot at Rome.

Kristos, representing the Sun, was the god of the east, and Hesus, representing the Sun, was the god of the west. The bishops of the Kristosites of the east became worried by the increasing waves of doubt that flowed in upon them from the Hesusites of the west. By 324 A.D. the waves got so strong that the situation had grown tense and dangerous. Some action had to be taken for the preservation of the Empire....
Reliable details of this religious struggle have not been permitted to come down to us for good reasons. The Mother Church has been careful to see that they have been kept out of the history books and encyclopedias. People think they get the full story relative to everything in the encyclopedias because that is what they are taught in the brainwashing processes called education.

The particular details we have in mind here were well-known at the time, and were expounded in the valuable writings of Eunomius. That is the secret reason why his writings were not only ruthlessly destroyed, but also those of the Christian writers who attempted to answer his bitter charges relative to the fraudulent structure of Christianity....

The main factor of the bitter controversy which the Nicean Council sought to settle, was whether the Hindu Krishna of the east should prevail over the Druidic Hesus of the west, or both be recognized, both be joined, and both be worshipped under the united name, Hesus Kristos....
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I find Hotema's depiction to be quite satisfying overall. However, it is obviously too simplistic to explain everything that coalesced to form what we know as Christianity. All of the elements that I have written about need to be brought in as well. Hotema obviously could not be terribly detailed in his simple and short explanation.

While I'm certain that the formation of early Christianity occurred as I have outlined in my books, with the input from Antioch, Judea, Alexander and Rome, and even though the name "Jesus" is not derived from "Hesus" but from the Greek Iesous, I nevertheless believe the Hesus connection warrants further investigation, as does the information purportedly provided by Bishop Eunomius. If we could get our hands on secret Vatican files and other texts and artifacts that have survived the immense censorial destruction of the past millennium and a half, we could likely find some very intriguing information. Alas, the destruction was indeed massive, and these files - if they even exist today - are undoubtedly well hidden away.

It's a darned shame that humankind is so dishonest and destructive.
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