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Old 02-12-2009, 03:18 PM   #31
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I was in a night club in downtown SF a few months ago and I was standing in a smoking room that was quite large, the club was very large too. I doubt it was owner op. Did they change the laws since october?

Also 80Sq Ft is VERY small. It is smaller than my bedroom! the room in question is 8' X 10' an avrage bedroom is 12' X 10'.
Well, there may be something I don't know about the smoking laws, it has been known to happen from time to time that I'm wrong.

But I think it's more likely that they were violating the law, as several bars I know of do, since any loophole that allowed clubs to operate a smoking room would be likely to have made the news at some point.
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Shame we could not get this in the UK then my local would still be open
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31 July 2008

GERMANY'S highest court ruled yesterday that small bars and restaurants should be exempted from regional smoking bans.
It said the bans were unconstitutional because they "seriously interfered" with the livelihoods of these businesses.

Smoking bans came into effect individually in most of Germany's 16 federal states at the start of the year.

The fact that the laws allow bars and restaurants to create closed-off smoking areas in effect put small establishments that lacked the space for these at an unfair disadvantage, the court said.

The ruling upheld a complaint by the owners of two small bars in Berlin and a nightclub operator in the state of Baden-Württemberg, who argued that the legislation had put their businesses at risk.

The Constitutional Court said the rules must be redrawn by the end of 2009 and that, until then, smoking must be allowed in bars and restaurants of less than 80sq ft. As most of Germany's regional states have similar smoking laws the ruling is likely to set a precedent.

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Ha ha oh the irony, you fought against the Germans so you would be free.
They lost and they are free you won and you lost you freedom.

Sweet isn't it?

Where did it all go wrong?
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Ha ha oh the irony, you fought against the Germans so you would be free.
They lost and they are free you won and you lost you freedom.

Sweet isn't it?

Where did it all go wrong?
Well USA and the allies fought for the freedom of the Jews and the other targeted minorities in Germany. Also, it wasn't in our best interest to let Hitler and Stallon rule the world.

But I definitely understand your point. Pretty funny.
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