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    Is Vapor Junction the only one that has the cartos for the 400 series? I checked all on the list of the "400 series suppliers" and didn't see any of them with cartos.

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    bump once....just in case

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    liberty flights Ce2 M series about half way down the page Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - C-E2 - 510/808D-1[901]/401

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    I didn't see any CE2 R4 atomizer cartridges listed for the m401 series e-cigarettes listed at Liberty Flights. For all I know, at least on this continent (at least for now), Vapor Junction is it. Since I've ordered some stainless steel m402 batteries from LiteCigUSA, Vapor Junction having only stainless steel m401 cartomizers does not bother me. I like the idea of an all stainless steel unit the size of an m402. My usual black batteries tend to start losing their painted on finish eventually anyway, though it usually takes several months for the first chips to appear. After that they start pealing and looking ugly fast.

    I put in an order with Vapor Junction for this latest CE2 revision cartomizer tonight. Just one 5-pack, to check these things out and see if they really can be the bee's knees. Not sure if I will end up modding them at all. It just depends on how well they work out and how user friendly they are to maintain. Refilling them doesn't seem to be all that much of an issue, but having to clean them out once and awhile to keep using them again and again might be. I'm used to just refilling the same old cartridges I got months ago without much fuss. Mostly all I've paid for so far is regular supplies of e-liquid and occasional forays into trying out other new gear.

    The experiments with trying out other e-cigarette models (like the m601) haven't worked out too well, and in the end have turned out to be a waste of money overall. Oh well, the same may turn out to be the case with these new E2 cartomizers. They are not expensive, only about $13 with shipping for the 5-pack, with a syringe tip, so I won't be out much if these things suck. I will update here on how they work out for me with an m402 setup (seems not a lot of folks are doing that at this point). I'll be using what are typically 50/50 PG/VG e-liquid flavors from Halo, FreedomSmokeUSA, and Backwoods Brew. Supposedly these cartomizers prefer PG rather that VG e-liquids, but there is some debate on that and the reasons why.

    Of course, you might just be referring to regular m401 series cartomizers, but those are available from more domestic suppliers than just Vapor Junction or Liberty Flights. I've had no experience with either one as a product supplier, so I can't comment on how good either one may or may not be. User reviews on Vapor Junction sound okay. I haven't looked into Liberty Flights much, just looked at their website and saw they don't have what I want right now. Have any of you used these CE2 R4 cartomizers (or possibly an earlier revision?) on an m401 series e-cigarette? And if so, how did it go?

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    Thanks for the input.....I am getting the M40x kit from LiteCigUSA for my mom....the kit that has all 3 batts in it....and I wanted to get her some cartos as I think it will make a HUGE diff in getting her off analogs.....will have to keep my eyes open for reviews of vapor junctions cartos.

    Please let me know your opinion billybc96 when you get them

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    Just checked the link....thanks flbutterfly I think I will get those and the ones from Vapor Junction and see which ones last better for her.

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    She'll be fine just using regular refillable cartridges at first. The standard m401 series gear works well, the newer cartomizers might just make them even cooler. Did you get a PCC as well? (Highly recommended, but not absolutely necessary if she'll have 3 batteries.) Are you getting her any e-liquid, or are you just using factory filled cartridges for now? Just curious. I think the refilling route is better in the long run, and flavors are usually better, but she might not want to mess with that at first.

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    I posted this elsewhere tonight, but I figure I had better post it here at this thread as well. I hope the info is helpful.

    I finally just got my package of CE2 R4 cartomizers from Vapor Junction. Nicely packaged for what it is worth, but for the life of me I don't understand why so many of our suppliers use such over-sized boxes for such small shipments. Oh well, whatever, the shipping method works. I was eager to start using these things right away, and am using my first one right now. I've had little experience when it comes to using cartomizers before, so keep that in mind when you read the rest of this post.

    Filling the thing using the standard method wasn't all that hard, but it does help to have read dozens of posts on the subject here at ECF before attempting to do so (including this thread right here). Luckily I had a small syringe for the job I got for free months ago from an Intellicig e-liquid order. I'm not sure using one of my other larger syringes would have worked at all with the one little flexible tip you get with your cartomizer order from Vapor Junction. After using the vaporizer for a short period of time I tried topping the device off and reassembling the device per Adik Ted's recommendation. I used a small paperclip with one end slightly bent and curved by a small pair of pliers. Turned out to be not that difficult to get the 3rd (innermost) ring out. It is semi-clear, and fairly flexible, but it is in the tube pretty tight. Care has to be taken so as not to damage the ceramic cup assembly, so I used only a very small but sharp curve on the end of the paperclip to achieve the task. Momentarily I was worried, but it ended up popping out without too much trouble. You just have to be carefully at what angle you are leveraging the paperclip. (You will have to leverage it using the cartomizer tube outer wall.) I used a vinyl coated paperclip, which I then cut the vinyl coating off of at just the very tip where I then bent it to use as a hook. Having the vinyl coated portion of the paperclip intact where it made contact against the cartomizer's outer wall probably helped keep the paperclip from sliding around and doing unwanted damage. The hook in the paperclip only has to be a very few millimeters in length to be effective.

    Now that I've topped off and have reassembled the cartomizer, using only the reversed 3rd inner ring and the white end plug piece (with the 2nd inner ring completely removed from the assembly), I am now trying to figure out if I like these things or not. Right now it is hard to say. The vapor volume production and flavor delivery don't seem much different from a standard atomizer/cartridge arrangement. My one much older m402 battery isn't really performing as well as it used to, so I switched to my slightly newer battery (still waiting on a new battery set delivery from LiteCigUSA). It is still hard to say if either one is any better than the other as far as basic performance goes. I fully expect the cartomizer to keep going a lot longer without having to be switched out or refilled, and that is the biggest overall difference so far.

    Flavor taste seems a bit different, though I can't put my finger on the exact difference. I think the cartomizer delivers more throat hit, but I can only distinctively feel the difference in my nose, not my throat so much. Leakage has not been a problem at all so far, in either the 2 or 3 ring configuration. I will probably get more out of these cartomizers when I get my m402 batteries that don't have the automatic cutoff feature many people find annoying.

    A fully assembled m402 with the cartomizer attached is only about 1mm longer than a standard cartridge/atomizer setup on an m402, maybe even less. The stainless steel finish on the cartomizer very nearly matches the one on the stainless steel battery I currently have, which makes for a very non-analog cigarette looking package. The look of using the stainless steel finished cartomizer on my black m402 battery actually looks alright. I kind of even like it. Oh well, too late to order black batteries instead of stainless steel right now. I'll have to try these cartomizers out for much longer than the last hour or two I've been using one if I'm going to be giving an honest opinion on them. The big thing will probably be how much vaping I get out of one before it has to be refilled. This one I'm using now I filled with liquid all the way up to the top of the inner ceramic cup that holds the atomizer coil. I still needed a fairly small syringe head to do that, but I didn't need the tiny flexible one that came with my cartomizer 5-pack. I could've probably dripped too, but with the cartomizer at an angle. I don't think I would have not gotten quite as much e-liquid in that way, but I may just need practice.

    As a side note, I also got my 12mg Halo Torque56 today, but have not tried it with the new cartomizers yet. Instead, I'm using it with a 3-piece m601 I don't use much these days, mainly because it is a ridiculously oversensitive automatic. It does produce good vapor though, just not particularly incredible taste. I like the Halo Torque56. Previously I had tried a small 18mg sample size of it many months ago. At the time I thought it was overpowering, but that it had potential. I have always wanted to try it in a lower nicotine level. Apparently the lower nicotine level helps. Unlike Halo's Freedom e-juice, which is perhaps more sweet by comparison, the Torque56 is a bit more nutty in flavor, and also more tobacco-like overall. It is still a bit sweet, as a tobacco flavor probably should be, but the nuances are different. It also has more woody flavor components, and I think it is maybe a bit less chemical-like in flavor than the Freedom e-juice, even without steeping.

    Anyway, that's more than enough for now. I'll get back to you folks later.

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    Aha! I see now, at least in 2-ring modded form, that the cartomizer will leak some if you store it with the cartomizer end facing straight down. Now I'll have to try that with an unmodified (3-ring) cartomizer and see what happens. Maybe I can play around with using the 2nd ring instead of the reversed 3rd ring? Draw did seem better just using 2 rings instead of 3, I'd like to keep that better draw somehow, without any leakage issues.

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    Yay! At least using all 3 rings normally, no leakage issues at all, regardless of which way anything is pointing. That's good, but I still think I'll check into simple modifications to improve the draw. I might even just go back to the 2-ring method and store my active e-cigarettes better, but that sounds like a hassle. I can see why people have mixed opinions on these.

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