Stop the leakage! This is aggravating. in Model Specific Discussion; Originally Posted by Sludge Van Diesel
I just wondered, because I've never encountered anything like what you describe other than ...
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Originally Posted by
Sludge Van Diesel
I just wondered, because I've never encountered anything like what you describe other than from over full carts (I use Intellicig EVOs, Pilots, EM4s & some generics from Central Trade)
Yeah, I'm trying to make sure I don't overfill. Usually 4-6 drops per cart.
Would those M401s you mention be different than the one I'm using from litecig? I didn't realize there were different designs (except for 2 & 4 hole attys and except for the Sidesho which seems to be 401 based but not interchangeable.)

Originally Posted by
garyinco
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Not so much different designs, more different quality control in the factories.
Maybe try an Intellicig model (by far the best I have) intellicig-USA.com Buy Intellicig EVO Electronic Cigarette by intellicig, The intelligent e-smoking e-cig alternative. (their US distribution)
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I have to agree that this seems strange. The M401 is the only one that I've had so far that didn't leak and I carry them in my shirt or pants pocket all day, so they end up in various positions. 510s and 901s have leaked. I'd try restuffing, experimenting with varying densities of fiberfill.
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I have to admit that it was a bit of a learning curve when I started refilling my own carts & I did get "leakage" even when I thought I hadn't overfilled. How long have you been using your 401?
My technique now is to remove the stuffing drop around 6 drips into the cart (about 3/4 full as droppers can give different size drops), replace the stuffing & drip one more drop onto the top of the filler. Since doing this, I haven't had any problems with liquid in my mouth.
As I haven't any experience with litecig, I can't comment on their QC, but from what I've seen here they seem pretty good, which leads me to think it might be down to your filling technique. Have you had the same problem with prefilled carts?
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I've been using the M401 for over two months now. First with auto batteries and now the manuals. I'm on my 3rd atty.
I've been refilling my carts by just dripping into them with the original stuffing still in there then push it around with the paperclip to make sure it goes in and absorbs. Maybe I'll try pulling out the filler then filling like your suggesting. However this happened to me yesterday with a brand new prefilled cart I had just opened.
I'm still experimenting. I guess if I'm going to use these all the time in place of analogs I just have to get used to all the hassle involved in using them.

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garyinco
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Really not that much hassle for me.
I cut 1 M401 cart 3/4" long.
Tailpipe drip 2 drops.
Take 13 puffs (about same as analog).
Drip 2 drops.
13 puffs.
2 drops...
Last edited by emus; 11-05-2009 at 08:37 PM.
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I've never experienced the problems you describe either with the M4xx.
The only times I got liquid in my mouth was either when the cart was over-filled, or in the early days when I trid to 'yank' the draw as you do a cigarette. (PS The pre-filled carts can be overfilled, too)
I leave my e-cig with the LED pointing downwards most of the time, so I really don't think that's your problem.
(I know it's not much positive help, but it can be a help to eliminate problems as well)
Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by
Angela
or in the early days when I trid to 'yank' the draw as you do a cigarette.
That's a fair point, maybe your actual vaping technique is at fault?
Try slow steady drags.
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Why can't I reply to this thread with quotes? Weird.

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garyinco
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Why can't I reply to this thread with quotes? Weird.
I can
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