[TEST]Heaven Gifts M401 w. Standard+USB-Battery - E-Cigarette Forum

Taelon · 11-20-2009, 12:23 PM

Abandoned DSE103 series for serious atomizer quality regression and ordered M401 kit in parts without AC adaptor, arrived today.

+First try with USB-Battery fine, slighter and lighter weight and better cord, draws lesser power from usb port cause i cannot hear the laptop's voltage converter as before with the DSE103 USB-System.
+Liquid smells OK again, no burning effects and thick coal crusts as with DSE103 USB-System.
-Refilling is little more complicated, the depot fits hard in the cartdrige, not easy to get out for refilling or you need a syringe with long needle and a good lamp.
+Better mechanics and atomizer manufacturing quality.
+Better cartdrigde plastics quality and fit tolerances to atomizers.
-USB Charger's battery status signalling looks unclear, too slow frequent led flashing.
-Atomizer seems to contain a plastic part under the liquid feeder (or is it ceramics?) and cannot be cleaned by applying aux power then.
+Better airflow sensor, easy to draw vapour.
-Subjectively less vapour at <75% depot level(?), more+best vapour with USB-Battery.
+Battery very reliable, ~2h chainsmoking.

Atomizer lifetime, aux power burncleaning ability and possible autocleaning features will be reported.

2 days now, vapour like as new atomizer, this is what I call a quality e-cigarette, SLB will take long to catch up. Who is manufacturer of the HG M401?

Wench · 11-20-2009, 12:33 PM

M401 doesn't have a autoclean cycle.
Refilling carts are easy, just use a paperclip to push up, refill the little cup, then use paperclip or tweezers to push back down, no need to get a long syringe just to refill. I've gotten lazy so I usually just dip or drip.

Houdini · 11-20-2009, 05:35 PM

I don't take anything apart when I refill mine. Just drop 4 or 5 drops of juice down the center of the cartridge and put the cartridge back on. I get a bit a juice in my mouth maybe 1 out of 20 times of doing this which is no big deal for me.

Taelon · 11-20-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houdini

drop 4 or 5 drops of juice down the center of the cartridge

Really dangerous habit, nicotine is very poisonous, the depot must be taken out frequently to clean dry the oil cup from condensate or it will overload and leak liquid in mouth

If You get liquid in mouth You should spill out with water immediately!

Houdini · 11-20-2009, 07:32 PM

Of course I spit it out. I don't think there is any of us that hasn't ended up tasting the juice before one way or another. In this hobby it's inevitable. I've had at least 5 different model cartridges and they have all leaked one time or another. You are right about the poison. In larger doses it could be very dangerous but an accidental drop on the tongue every other day I don't think will do any damage.

j0ker · 11-20-2009, 08:00 PM

From what I've read, you would have to drink about 40-60mg to kill you. I consume between 5-10ml a day vaping, I'm sure most, if not all of that, returns to liquid once it's in my body. I don't think we have anything to worry about. I might drink 1ml a day on a bad day.

Taelon · 11-24-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taelon

Atomizer lifetime, aux power burncleaning ability and possible autocleaning features will be reported.

Atty survived 1st burn-cleaning by applying aux power

and ethanol bath. Vapour amount back at 100%

Bjorn Toulouse · 11-24-2009, 08:17 AM

what did you use in your burn clean? I have tried 5v so far to no avail....well apart from inadvertantly melting a cart,,,oops

Birdy · 11-24-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wench

M401 doesn't have a autoclean cycle.

Mine do. Kicks in every time I take the second drag after pulling the batteries out of the charger.

I just make sure I pull the cart off as soon as I take that 2nd drag and blow the vapor away from the atty as it does it's little 3 second burn. Keeps the icky clean-cycle vapor off the mesh bridge, so it doesn't taste bad.

Stankia · 11-27-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdy

Mine do. Kicks in every time I take the second drag after pulling the batteries out of the charger.

I just make sure I pull the cart off as soon as I take that 2nd drag and blow the vapor away from the atty as it does it's little 3 second burn. Keeps the icky clean-cycle vapor off the mesh bridge, so it doesn't taste bad.

Oh so that's what it is

I was wondering what's wrong with my M401

11-20-2009, 12:23 PM	#1
Taelon Senior Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DE-Germany Posts: 195	[TEST]Heaven Gifts M401 w. Standard+USB-Battery Abandoned DSE103 series for serious atomizer quality regression and ordered M401 kit in parts without AC adaptor, arrived today. +First try with USB-Battery fine, slighter and lighter weight and better cord, draws lesser power from usb port cause i cannot hear the laptop's voltage converter as before with the DSE103 USB-System. +Liquid smells OK again, no burning effects and thick coal crusts as with DSE103 USB-System. -Refilling is little more complicated, the depot fits hard in the cartdrige, not easy to get out for refilling or you need a syringe with long needle and a good lamp. +Better mechanics and atomizer manufacturing quality. +Better cartdrigde plastics quality and fit tolerances to atomizers. -USB Charger's battery status signalling looks unclear, too slow frequent led flashing. -Atomizer seems to contain a plastic part under the liquid feeder (or is it ceramics?) and cannot be cleaned by applying aux power then. +Better airflow sensor, easy to draw vapour. -Subjectively less vapour at <75% depot level(?), more+best vapour with USB-Battery. +Battery very reliable, ~2h chainsmoking. Atomizer lifetime, aux power burncleaning ability and possible autocleaning features will be reported. 2 days now, vapour like as new atomizer, this is what I call a quality e-cigarette, SLB will take long to catch up. Who is manufacturer of the HG M401? __________________ Hardware: 2x M401 2x DSE103, 2x Thin Blue Box 11cm "Health", 3x DealExtreme 84mm Models Last edited by Taelon; 11-22-2009 at 11:13 AM.

11-20-2009, 12:33 PM	#2
Wench Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 918	M401 doesn't have a autoclean cycle. Refilling carts are easy, just use a paperclip to push up, refill the little cup, then use paperclip or tweezers to push back down, no need to get a long syringe just to refill. I've gotten lazy so I usually just dip or drip. __________________

11-20-2009, 05:35 PM	#3
Houdini Master Of Mystery ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,905	I don't take anything apart when I refill mine. Just drop 4 or 5 drops of juice down the center of the cartridge and put the cartridge back on. I get a bit a juice in my mouth maybe 1 out of 20 times of doing this which is no big deal for me. __________________

11-20-2009, 07:32 PM	#5
Houdini Master Of Mystery ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,905	Of course I spit it out. I don't think there is any of us that hasn't ended up tasting the juice before one way or another. In this hobby it's inevitable. I've had at least 5 different model cartridges and they have all leaked one time or another. You are right about the poison. In larger doses it could be very dangerous but an accidental drop on the tongue every other day I don't think will do any damage. __________________

11-20-2009, 08:00 PM	#6
j0ker Moderator Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 1,609	From what I've read, you would have to drink about 40-60mg to kill you. I consume between 5-10ml a day vaping, I'm sure most, if not all of that, returns to liquid once it's in my body. I don't think we have anything to worry about. I might drink 1ml a day on a bad day. __________________ Two fish swim into a concrete wall. One turns to the other and says, "Dam!" Last edited by j0ker; 11-20-2009 at 08:36 PM. Reason: corrected amount on nic

11-24-2009, 08:17 AM	#8
Bjorn Toulouse Senior Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 207	what did you use in your burn clean? I have tried 5v so far to no avail....well apart from inadvertantly melting a cart,,,oops

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