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Thread: New clinical trials proves electronic cigarettes are significantly more effective than government approved smoking cessation devices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spazmelda View Post
    That comment was probably electricman. Sounds like him.
    Yeah well I responded to his outrageous comment. I could not help myself. Now I have degraded myself by posting on Yahoo! Electricman, huh. I will see him around I suppose.

    Precision with our words is critical if we are to win this fight. I hope we don't sound like a couple of Debbie Downers!

    The stupid, primitive, useless site also double posted me-AARGH!
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    More than anything, I just want the govmint to keep their noses out of this industry. The ecig industry is an excellent example of how a true free-market can govern itself. Keep it in the hands of the people, and keep the vulture capitalists and tyrants out.

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    In an era where even top scientists can't agree where global warming exists or not, how do we expect testing of electronic cigarettes to be accepted unless conducted at an extremely high level over extended periods of time? Medical testing of users in a trusted environment with FDA involvement might fly, but there's always an element of distrust around tobacco products.

    The push is to eradicate anything that reminds tobacco haters of a cigarette. I think those people view ecigs as a stop gap method of prolonging their fight and just another cigarette substitute that slows progress for a tobacco free world. They will ignore the fact that people are actually leaving tobacco for a safer substitute. Never mind that it is effective, they just want to prove that it's not 100% safe and should be squashed before it catches on and prevents smokers from actually quitting nicotine for good.

    Funny that most anti's are caffeine abusers, should we as nicotine users start lobby'ing against their addiction of choice? Really though, I have to agree with above statements that more clear run tests are needed to clinically argue points from the ecig users standpoint. We (me included) tend to latch onto studies without really thinking about how useful the data really is. Not that I am saying any of us believe that vaping is safer than just breathing, we all know it is a harm reduction tool, but a lot of people try to argue that it's "safe" with no means to back up the comments. That sadly leaves holes that can be easily countered, and makes the community looks less than intelligent.

    Just a sarcastic joke about the caffeine thing BTW, I am NOT giving up my morning coffee!

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    Did I miss something here? The OPs link took me to a Yahoo page with a letter written by him but the letter seemed to be a advertisement with links to his e-cig website. Maybe I went to the wrong web page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny D View Post
    Did I miss something here? The OPs link took me to a Yahoo page with a letter written by him but the letter seemed to be a advertisement with links to his e-cig website. Maybe I went to the wrong web page.
    Oh, ha! I didn't even notice that. You are correct. You can still find the write up on PRWeb, by searching for the title, and it has it as written by Robert Patrick, info@the-best-electronic-cigarette.xx.xx

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    This is a press release promoting an e-cigarette review/marketing company that initially appears to be a sensationalized news article with a gramatical error in the headline (i.e. trials proves).

    The first question asked in the press release clearly indicates that its author doesn't understand the history of e-cigarettes and the FDA.

    So why does the FDA not approve electronic cigarettes as a smoking cessation device?
    The correct answer is Judge Leon's ruling, which prohibited the FDA from regulating e-cigarettes as smoking cessation devices (unless the manufacturer makes a therapeutic claim).
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    I believe ECF has rules about members with e-cigarette affiliate sites & reviewers being registered and approved? I'm sorry, but that "article" is nothing more than a (somewhat inaccurate and mostly culled from Dr. Siegel's blog) press release designed to feed people to an e-cigarette affiliate site - a UK-based site, too.

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