Obama Receiving an E-Cig For Valentine’s Day

[Sun Vaporer]

I just saw this on wiki
just thought it was interesting how clearly they point out e-cigs ..when talking about the nicotine inhaler

" A nicotine inhaler allows cigarette smokers to get nicotine without using tobacco, much like nicotine gum or a nicotine patch. Nicotine inhalers that are marketed as nicotine replacement therapy should not be confused with electronic cigarettes, which produce vapor and which are marketed mainly as devices that smokers can use in nonsmoking areas"

Metered-dose inhaler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Misty -- Great find. Glad to see correct information about our devices being posted as they clearly state "[n]ot to be confused with" Id. Thanks for the research--Sun

[skullsoup432]

@stephenrowley
Yes, you made some good points. I think the best point of all was about your atomizer dying and being a hop skip and jump away from going back to tobacco. I shouldn't be that close to tobacco! I should be a hop skip and jump away from a new atomizer! I should be able to go to Wal-Mart, the drugstore, even a gas station for an atomizer, juice or even a brand new starter kit. Also, I don't want to stop vaping. Yes I'm addicted to nicotine, but I also get pleasure from smoking/vaping!

We're getting off subject, as this was originally about the uncaring distributors. But it has definitely given me a lot of thought.

This is kind of like the gun control debate here in America. I don't own guns, I don't hunt. But if you do, and enjoy it, that is your right. I enjoyed target practicing, the bigger the gun the better! But I don't own any, and rarely go out with my buddy shooting. But if others want to, that is their right!

Well, I probably overstated and overextended my welcome. Thanks all!

[sherid]

Have you already tried e-cigarettes? Pros and cons

February 16, 2009 - 2:51pm | author: ayny | Articles | Other themes

Have you already tried e-cigarettes? Pros and cons

Sometimes very conventional things obtain quite unusual shapes. Usually they turn to better however sometimes that “better” is very questionable. Today when almost all the developed countries ban smoking in public places, e-cigarettes, a modern analog of the conventional cigarettes becomes more and more popular.

Electronic cigarettes have been invented by Chinese scientist Hon Lik. The first cigarettes of the new generation have come into the market in May 2004 and became very popular at once. According to Ruyan, a Beijing based company where Hon works; only in 2008 the company has sold nearly 300 thousand e-cigarettes.

So, what is it that e-cigarette? The definition of this item is as follows: an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. It is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine by delivering a vaporized propylene glycol/nicotine solution. In addition to nicotine delivery, this vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, while no tobacco, smoke, or combustion is actually involved in its operation.

Actually e-cigarettes are similar in appearance with ordinary cigarettes. However instead of tobacco it contains a battery and an LED. Besides battery and LED the so-called cigarette also contains an atomizer and a cartridge. The principle of operation of such e-cigarette is pretty simple: when a user inhales through the device, air flow is detected by a sensor, which activates a heating element that vaporizes a nicotine solution stored in the mouthpiece, called cartridge. It is this vapor that is inhaled by the user. An LED on the opposite end of the device is also activated during inhalation, which serves as an indicator of use, and also to simulate the glow of actual burning tobacco. There are several types of cartridges: high, medium, low and zero-nicotine strength. According to New Scientist magazine the strongest cartridge contains about the same amount of nicotine as a regular-strength cigarette, but lasts for about 300 puffs in comparison with a regular cigarette that lasts for about 15. The average price for such cartridge is $1.50. Each cartridge contains material that is moistened with a flavored propylene glycol/nicotine liquid solution. When the liquid in the cartridge has been depleted, it can either be refilled by the user, or replaced with another pre-filled cartridge.

According to Murray Laugesen, a scientist from New Zealand who currently studies the impact of e-cigarettes to human health even the strongest cartridge only delivers around one-third the amount of nicotine delivered by a puff on a normal cigarette.

Actually the e-cigarettes were marketed as a smoking quit solution. There were lots of various studies which showed that e-cigarettes are less harmless than the ordinary cigarettes since they do not contain tobacco and tar, and hence are not harmful for the so-called passive smokers. However, being sold as a treatment for the smoking nicotine people e-cigarettes do not solve the main problem - addiction. Today there is great variety of drugs, including plasters and pills that help people to quit smoking. E-cigarettes imitating the smoking are said to be less philologically harmful for those who decided to put an end to pernicious habit, however the whole process of smoking that cigarettes is so similar to the conventional one that the final result becomes very doubtful. And if considering e-cigarettes as a move to make smoking safer here there are some nuances as well. According to the smokers e-cigarettes can not be compared to the ordinary ones since smoking is not just a process bringing the dose of nicotine to the organism. Smoking the smokers get the odor and taste that are a part of that habit as well, hence e-cigarettes are not a good alternative for the ordinary things.




Besides there is not exact legislation regarding those e-cigarettes. In September 2008, the World Health Organization issued a release proclaiming that it does not consider the electronic cigarette to be a legitimate smoking cessation aid, stating that to its knowledge, "no rigorous, peer-reviewed studies have been conducted showing that the electronic cigarette is a safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy."

Some countries are still hesitating about approving those e-cigarettes. The reason of this is absence of a clear examination and survey before the manufacturing of those devices. So, according to open sources:

• In Australia, the sale of electronic cigarettes containing nicotine is illegal.
• In Austria and Denmark, electronic cigarettes are considered medical devices, and nicotine cartridges medicinal products. Therefore electronic cigarettes need to be CE-marked, and nicotine cartridges registered as medicinal products, before either can be legally sold.
• In Finland, cartridges containing nicotine are illegal to sell, or to purchase with intent to sell, but are not illegal to purchase from overseas sources for personal use only.
• In The Netherlands, use of electronic cigarettes is allowed, but advertising is forbidden pending European Union legislation.
• In New Zealand, the Ministry of Health has ruled that cartridges containing nicotine fall under the requirements of the Medicines Act, and cannot be sold except as a registered medicine.
• In the United Kingdom, electronic cigarette use is currently unrestricted, with celebrity nightclub Chinawhite allowing use of the devices indoors, where traditional cigarette smoking is prohibited.
• In the United States, electronic cigarettes are currently unrestricted, but are also not approved as a smoking cessation product. Electronic cigarettes are currently not subject to restriction under the Nevada Clean Indoor Air Act.

So, as we can see e-cigarettes raise contradictory talks and opinions. People have been smoking cigarettes for several hundred years; e-cigarettes have appeared just a several years ago. May be that makes a sense to look closer to that new invention that is intended to make smoking less harmful, to decrease the number of people suffering from various diseases caused by smoking, including cancer. Today the picture of our society is not very bright. The number of smoking women is constantly rising; the number of children with inborn diseases is also increasing. Smoking has become a real problem, and it should be solved. So, may be e-cigarettes are the panacea?...
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[TribbleTrouble]

@stephenrowley
Yes, you made some good points. I think the best point of all was about your atomizer dying and being a hop skip and jump away from going back to tobacco. I shouldn't be that close to tobacco! I should be a hop skip and jump away from a new atomizer! I should be able to go to Wal-Mart, the drugstore, even a gas station for an atomizer, juice or even a brand new starter kit. Also, I don't want to stop vaping. Yes I'm addicted to nicotine, but I also get pleasure from smoking/vaping!

We're getting off subject, as this was originally about the uncaring distributors. But it has definitely given me a lot of thought.

This is kind of like the gun control debate here in America. I don't own guns, I don't hunt. But if you do, and enjoy it, that is your right. I enjoyed target practicing, the bigger the gun the better! But I don't own any, and rarely go out with my buddy shooting. But if others want to, that is their right!

Well, I probably overstated and overextended my welcome. Thanks all!

Don't worry, Skull! You did not overstate or overextend yourself at all. It is obvious that Stephen isn't worried about the status of e-cigs or his distributorship's future in his country. I feel he is lucky to live in a country where his government will not impose themselves on his wish to e-vape or sell his vaping equipment. What is sad is that us here in the U.S. do have some reason to worry. This country hates smoking, and it also tends to hate anything that might even be associated with smoking. That is why I like discussing this issue, because I am determined to find a way to keep my gear regardless of what the anti-smokers in this country think about it or try to do about it. I guess they just don't have that problem in South Africa, therefore, they think we are just paranoid. Maybe we are, but I believe we have reason to be.

[surbitonPete]

Controlling the population may be a necessary thing for the people in power but in recent years it has taken on a whole new level.....it's now come down to controlling almost every little details of our lives............ and their favourite word these days seems to be 'BAN'.......I have become sick and tired of hearing the word 'BAN' I think I would be happy if I never ever, ever, heard that word used again.

(Sorry that's not much to do with the thread, just a bit of a personal, crazy rant going on here)

[stephenrowley]

I must say it is going to be interesting to see what the future holds for the electronic cigarette in the USA, I can just picture it now all the e-smokers in USA migrating South.

I think worst case scenario is they ban the e-cig nicotine and not the device, until nicotine production is regulated and proven to be a safer alternative

Given that this is a real possibility I am pretty sure some manufactures are working on this as we speak, I don't think any board of directors is just going to sit back and hope that someone does the research for them, I am sure they are investing large amounts of money for research into the safety of there nicotine such as Ruyan and others.

Should they ban the device any day now you could always email me and I will put it in cute little aromatherapy bottle and ship it to you..jokes..but you get my point.

Were there is a will there is away

Good luck to you all.