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Nicotine absorbtion from vaping research in Electronic Cigarette Research; Originally Posted by Skad Indeed, I use more of a pipe/cigar style inhale as opposed to a cig inhale. Well, ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skad View Post
    Indeed, I use more of a pipe/cigar style inhale as opposed to a cig inhale.
    Well, the piece of research showing why vaping has caught by surprise so many heavy smokers who made the transition almost without thinking will indeed be worth reading one day..



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    I can believe this report is true. I buy the best e-cigs and still struggle to quit analogs.
    I buy high nicotine liquid too. I am not smoking many analogs,but still cannot quit them.

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    I had really wondered if I could be getting the same amount of nicotine because if I do have a cigarette now it actually gives me quite a high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surbitonPete View Post
    I had really wondered if I could be getting the same amount of nicotine because if I do have a cigarette now it actually gives me quite a high.

    Hi Pete,

    I don't think I'd need more than one puff to feel disorientated, always supposing that it wasn't as disgusting as my last ciggie was 8 weeks ago. I imagine that it would be possible to reverse the process with a bit of persistence and return to being a heavy smoker, but I think it would be fairly unpleasant.

    I spend a lot of time vaping zero or low now. But the experiences of forum members with these issues seem to be amazingly varied.

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    Links to an abstract of the referenced study (Bullen et al.) have been put up here .
    Assuming the prelimnary reported results will be demonstrated to be valid, there’s indeed two questions, a) what this quantitative data on ecigs would imply for quitters, and b) what it means for legal regulation issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesarea View Post
    Hi Pete,

    I don't think I'd need more than one puff to feel disorientated, always supposing that it wasn't as disgusting as my last ciggie was 8 weeks ago. I imagine that it would be possible to reverse the process with a bit of persistence and return to being a heavy smoker, but I think it would be fairly unpleasant.

    I spend a lot of time vaping zero or low now. But the experiences of forum members with these issues seem to be amazingly varied.

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    Hi Caesarea ...it is rather interesting because when I tried very low tar cigarettes they just didn't satisfy my cravings, I could have one after the other and still not feel satisfied and yet vaping 36 mg certainly seems to take away the craving for me (which I don't think would be the case if it was nothing more than the placebo effect of mimicking the habit)...... and as you say peoples experiences on here do seem so amazingly varied so there isn't any one shoe fits all theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surbitonPete View Post
    Hi Caesarea ...it is rather interesting because when I tried very low tar cigarettes they just didn't satisfy my cravings, I could have one after the other and still not feel satisfied
    Yes I can empathise there cos I got up to 40 a day of S.C. Blue
    Come Back Gold Leaf all is forgiven... Or even Woodbine...


    and yet vaping 36 mg certainly seems to take away the craving for me (which I don't think would be the case if it was nothing more than the placebo effect of mimicking the habit)...... and as you say peoples experiences on here do seem so amazingly varied so there isn't any one shoe fits all theory.
    Yes I will have a puff or two of high nic when I feel bored, and it certainly seems to impart a pleasant buzz of some sort...


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    Woah......yes caesarea bring back the woodbines ....lol. .....those were back in the good old days when we were blissfully happy in our ignorance and weren't convinced we were going to die tomorrow from smoking a cigarette.

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    This makes WAY more sense than the previous numbers tossed around the forums.

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    This doesn't sound at all right from my experience
    (not that I've measured my blood levels).

    The reason I've reduced vaping & re-increased real ciggies
    (apart from needing morning 'quick-fix relief-of-symptoms' i.e. nicotine craving).
    is because I'm sure I was getting a massive amount more
    nicotine (but not the fast-acting free-base form given by cigs).

    Maybe I over-vaped (24 mg liquid) to compensate for the 'wrong' form of nicotine,
    (and to stop me reaching for the cig carton),
    but it's fairly obvious that I was mildly 'buzzing'
    all the time but without real satisfaction.

    In fact I often felt overdosed & nauseous, & this might even have put me off going
    to work once or twice.
    (ever tried a full inhale from 4 x 901' s at once? - don't, I almost passed out).

    Hmmm, might get one of those 'cotine' self-test diagnostic kits.

    Will be very interested when Dr Eissenberg has some quantitative results.

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