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Darmeen,
I wanted to apologize for my words. Sometimes these threads get out of hand with name calling. I was offended by what you said to Surf Monkey regarding Oregon, and you have to admit, it was a bit over the top. I continued to read you posts and saw that you came at the debate in a more civilized way and even ended on a good note with Surf. I am not a mean or nasty person, just frustrated at how things can get out of hand.
Again, sorry, and I hope to read more of your posts even though I disagree with a lot of what you say.
Also, I am not sure how to cut and paste sources. Seems when i do, they come out half-assed (not complete) and look funny. I am working on learning that.
Happy Holidays
Kathy (Katmar)