Vaporised tobacco? - E-Cigarette Forum

Papa Lazarou · 01-02-2009, 12:38 AM

Quick question, has anyone used a "herbal" vaporiser for tobacco alone? I was just wondering if they work. If they reach a sufficient temperature to release the nicotine content of loose tobacco, but without burning it. I'm referring to devices like this Vaporisers - Herb Vaporizers Online Shop Wondering if it could be a fallback if there is an e-cig ban in the UK... Cheers

lxor · 12-09-2009, 04:17 PM

Some pointers on tobacco selection:

Commercial cigarette tobacco is not the best because of its additives and relatively large amounts of ammonia. All tobacco initially has ammonia in it, the curing/fermentation process gets rid of it. Cigarette tobacco frequently contains burley tobacco which does not have the best taste, especially at higher temperatures, in my opinion. Cigarette tobacco however contains higher amount of nicotine than pipe/cigar tobaccos. Use premium fine cut rolling tobacco if you are going to use it. To get rid of ammonia expel the first few draws as ammonia vaporizes first and at a lower temperature.

Pipe/Cigar tobacco is generally of higher quality than cigarette tobacco and has been better prepared(cured/fermented for longer periods of time). However it often contains its own and added flavors which could irritate the throat / and cause coughing, and I'm guessing are not too healthy. The solution is the same as above, don't inhale the first few draws. This time however you can enjoy the flavors of the pipe tobacco and cigar tobacco in your mouth. To be honest I have not extensively vaped pipe and cigar tobaccos, this is something I wish to rectify in the near future. In addition to get the best flavors I have found its good to use short tubing/mouthpiece form the chamber, so that the flavors don't get deposited on the walls of the tubing.

Vaping is a very efficient use of tobbaco an you should be using a quarter to a half a cigs worth of tobacco every time you vape.

From what I have been told and have read vaporizing tobacco produces 5% or less of the toxins from smoking(1/20). To really know how safe tobacco vaping is (along with e-cig vaping) we will have to wait for more scientific studies that account for all factors.

FadedLine · 01-14-2010, 09:51 PM

Wow that V-Tower Extreme looks high tech! How do you like it? I've been throwing around the idea of getting a vaporizer. I hear really good reviews about the Silver Surfer too.

frogbmth · 01-16-2010, 09:41 AM

My vid on using the iolite with tobacco might answer some questions for you

YouTube - HD Iolite Part 3 - Tobacco

ZambucaLu · 01-16-2010, 03:09 PM

Hey guys, please no reference to illegal drugs. It's not allowed here.

Thank you,
Lu

smokum · 01-18-2010, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the video frogbmth !!

I'll have to pick up a few different small pouches of different tobacco's and give that a try.

VapeOn,
Greg

wesley · 01-26-2010, 08:05 PM

I've been playing around a bit with vaporizing tobacco and here's what I found. I started with the V-tower (not the extreme version with the bag but the cheaper one), and it isn't the best for shisha or anything really wet (like tobacco mixed with glycerin). It is an upright so the moisture from the shisha can drip down into the heating unit. I tried putting some cartridge stuffing underneath to catch the drips, but still had a problem. The shisha I used was pretty wet, though. I found vaping pipe tobacco to be safe in the unit but unexciting in flavor and without much vapor (but that's just a matter of taste). The iolite can handle shisha since the shisha can't get into the heating unit. I don't know about some of the other models, but some of them aren't upright so maybe the drip issue wouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure but I think the silver surfer isn't an upright model, so it might work for wet tobacco.

01-02-2009, 12:38 AM	#1
Papa Lazarou Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 421	Vaporised tobacco? Quick question, has anyone used a "herbal" vaporiser for tobacco alone? I was just wondering if they work. If they reach a sufficient temperature to release the nicotine content of loose tobacco, but without burning it. I'm referring to devices like this Vaporisers - Herb Vaporizers Online Shop Wondering if it could be a fallback if there is an e-cig ban in the UK... Cheers

01-14-2010, 09:51 PM	#3
FadedLine Full Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 65	Wow that V-Tower Extreme looks high tech! How do you like it? I've been throwing around the idea of getting a vaporizer. I hear really good reviews about the Silver Surfer too. __________________ "Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly." ~ The Dali Lama

01-18-2010, 07:59 PM	#6
smokum Vapour Freak !! ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario -CANADA- Posts: 2,403	Thanks for the video frogbmth !! I'll have to pick up a few different small pouches of different tobacco's and give that a try. VapeOn, Greg __________________

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12-09-2009, 04:17 PM	#2
lxor Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 17	Some pointers on tobacco selection: Commercial cigarette tobacco is not the best because of its additives and relatively large amounts of ammonia. All tobacco initially has ammonia in it, the curing/fermentation process gets rid of it. Cigarette tobacco frequently contains burley tobacco which does not have the best taste, especially at higher temperatures, in my opinion. Cigarette tobacco however contains higher amount of nicotine than pipe/cigar tobaccos. Use premium fine cut rolling tobacco if you are going to use it. To get rid of ammonia expel the first few draws as ammonia vaporizes first and at a lower temperature. Pipe/Cigar tobacco is generally of higher quality than cigarette tobacco and has been better prepared(cured/fermented for longer periods of time). However it often contains its own and added flavors which could irritate the throat / and cause coughing, and I'm guessing are not too healthy. The solution is the same as above, don't inhale the first few draws. This time however you can enjoy the flavors of the pipe tobacco and cigar tobacco in your mouth. To be honest I have not extensively vaped pipe and cigar tobaccos, this is something I wish to rectify in the near future. In addition to get the best flavors I have found its good to use short tubing/mouthpiece form the chamber, so that the flavors don't get deposited on the walls of the tubing. Vaping is a very efficient use of tobbaco an you should be using a quarter to a half a cigs worth of tobacco every time you vape. From what I have been told and have read vaporizing tobacco produces 5% or less of the toxins from smoking(1/20). To really know how safe tobacco vaping is (along with e-cig vaping) we will have to wait for more scientific studies that account for all factors.

01-16-2010, 03:09 PM	#5
ZambucaLu I SEES ALL! Moderator ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY, USA Posts: 9,666	Hey guys, please no reference to illegal drugs. It's not allowed here. Thank you, Lu

01-26-2010, 08:05 PM	#7
wesley Full Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 26	I've been playing around a bit with vaporizing tobacco and here's what I found. I started with the V-tower (not the extreme version with the bag but the cheaper one), and it isn't the best for shisha or anything really wet (like tobacco mixed with glycerin). It is an upright so the moisture from the shisha can drip down into the heating unit. I tried putting some cartridge stuffing underneath to catch the drips, but still had a problem. The shisha I used was pretty wet, though. I found vaping pipe tobacco to be safe in the unit but unexciting in flavor and without much vapor (but that's just a matter of taste). The iolite can handle shisha since the shisha can't get into the heating unit. I don't know about some of the other models, but some of them aren't upright so maybe the drip issue wouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure but I think the silver surfer isn't an upright model, so it might work for wet tobacco.