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    My local hardware store has silicone sheets (high temp gasket material) in various thicknesses. 1/16" and 1/8" are common. I may grab some for this experiment. So far.... this hasn't worked for me.

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    Got it fixed for the 510 and it works great so far. No flooding or burnt taste. The 510 is not my favorite e cig. Hate the battery life,so I have been sitting at computer with USB. I tried to make this for the 801 and the silicone cap is much to thin for me to work with.
    I get it cut and than try to make the hole and tire it up. Tried many times and I cannot get this to work. Next will try the 901, if I can find any caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristin View Post
    OK, trying this now. so far, no leaks or flooding. Was definitely pretty easy - I used a sharp utility knife. I recommend cutting it a little big and trimming to fit. If you cut it too small, you can't fix it! LOL

    I found one part of my pointy tweezers pushed into the X pops the plug right out for refilling, but I think now is the time to order those needle-tip bottles! I like how these look, because you can cut the tip as wide as you need it for the viscosity of your liquid:

    Where do you order these, please.


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    in a word; "WOW"

    Great mod Scottyballs!

    I made 3 of these "caps" and I think I'm done for life as far as the 510 goes

    I need to find some way to do this to my 401 carts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete54 View Post
    Where do you order these, please.
    I thought about that too, but is the price of the bottle, to get the tip, for a cart, worth it?

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    Oh you want to use it to refill.

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    to rejoice: this is how iv been doing it with my 801's and works great.

    coat the end of the cart just the tip in glue that u deam safe. i use superglue as i don't really care if it gets in to me because when it is dry its hard to get in to the juice.

    after that then slip the cap over the cart let it dry. when it is dry cut around the outside and remove the lip poak a hole right in the middle. 1 hole has been working good for me as on this lets call it the drum mod the atty bridge pushed up on the silicone making the hole bigger and when your done or going to sleep you can take the cart out and it will not leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eclypse View Post
    You guys should just drill a bunch of 16th of an inch diameter holes in the plug to make it like a shower head. I'm sure all the plug is doing is acting like a slow leaking fauset.

    Your making a hole in a plug that supposivly the atty bridge is touching and sucking juice threw.. when all its doing is either blocking the hole and theres a slight crack peeking threw for the jucie to drip.. too much of an opening exposed and its flooding the atty as its coming threw too fast.

    You'd be better off trying to figure out how to get the bridge all the way into the plug so its making contact with the juice.. have it somewhat sealed around the bridge but still juice is gota get through somehow to the wick and down to the coil.

    I'd try it but.. logic is telling me its a slow leak and dont waste your time.

    The possitive from this mod is we now have a different material to use as a plug that can handle the high heat.. i've played with the cap with high voltage and it seems to handle the heat.

    Actually i rolled up the sides of the cap into a spiral and shoved it into the cart with it resting on the inner lips and it worked as a plug with the opening in the middle of the spiral for the bridge to hold and the juice to flow. Worked ok.. though refilling was impossable without removing it.
    Isn't that the point of ALL cart mods?

    Just curious about what you think everyone is trying to achieve with any cart mod.

    Perfection would be a slow enough leak (or transfer of fluid from one medium to another) that your atty requires to stay saturated without getting soaked. This mod seems to hit the mark with a bullseye.

    This isn't to say others aren't having equal success with other mods, but prep on this one is a freakin' snap, and if you use the self-sealing "X" cut, you can store your extra (pre-filled) carts upside down while you build more without having any of them leak.


    The atty pushes up through the cap to open up the gap BUT is sealed by the rest of the cap. If the cut is correct (takes a few trials to get it right), it prevents excess liquid from soaking the atty.

    AFAICT, that ^ would be the logic behind this design.

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    The beauty of RTV silicone is that it is so dern easy to mold. I played with some sheet stock, punches, and the like.. but at the end of the day I'm going to want a molded "cap" that pops in, doesn't rock, is thin in the middle.. and has a hole or a slit or a whatever in the middle. That will be VERY easy to make from liquid RTV, a cut up cart, and a dead atomizer.

    Time permitting.. perhaps tonight. Dunno... I've got one of those "wife" things.. and a "kid" thing too.... They tend to get in the way of "me" things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete54 View Post
    Where do you order these, please.
    I found them here: Paplin Products Scroll down to #3188. You get 6-1oz bottles for $2.99. One ounce is approximately 29.57 ml - so it would hold almost a whole 30ml bottle of liquid!

    But you can also Google "needle tip bottle" and search by images to find all sorts of needle-tip bottles. There were some for glue applications, oil and paint applications. Some had actual metal needles in them. I liked these plastic ones, because the cap goes on over the tip, unlike some of the metal needle-tip bottles and you can cut it to make the opening wider for thicker liquid. Many of the metal needle bottles are too fine to get PG or VG through.
    Last edited by kristin; 12-07-2009 at 09:46 PM.


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