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Old 01-20-2009, 07:35 AM   #1
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Default The Halogen Lamp Atomiser Mod

Hello everybody, nice to be here again

I happened to make a halogen lamp mod for the e-cig, here are some details:

Objective:
- to replace the frequently dying atomisers with some other means that can evaporate e-liquid

Done:
- replaced the internals of the atomiser (actually, two atomisers) with a halogen lamp and wire mesh

Result, pro:
- fairly good vapour
- no more short living, expensive atomisers
- cheap and long-life halogen lamp used (cca. 2 EUR, 4000h)
- easy replacement of the lamp if it fails
- compatible with 4 AA battery pack and USB mod
- electrical and mechanical parts completely separated, easy cleaning of the latter

Result, con:
- ugly
- not compatible with original e-cig batteries
- only dripping is possible, no more cartidges, either, only their mouthpeace needed
- slow heating up; about 30s before the first puff
- produces a lot of heat during operation

Tools needed for the mod:
- soldering iron
- screwdriver
- knife

Components needed for the mod:
- two empty atomiser housings
- G4 halogen lamp cap with two wires of cca 1.5cm length (>1mm2)
- 6V 10W halogen lamp
- 10cm piece of a coaxial cable with stainless steel braided screening inside
- cartridge mouthpeace
- rubber ring with cca. 9-10mm diameter
- cca 20cm long self-adhesive insulating tape

How to make the mod:
A. Electrical part:
1. Push the rubber ring onto the G4 lampholder (it will keep the lampholder in place inside the atomiser housing)
2. Connect (solder) the lampholder with the two 1.5 cm long wires to the contact of the atomiser
3. Push the electrical part assembled above in one of the atomiser housings. The halogen lamp will project out by cca. 5mm, that is OK.
B. Mechanical part:
4. Blank the coaxial cable, remove the steel screening braid consisting of thin wires,
5. "Massage" the wires, until you get a cilindrical wire bundle having a diameter of cca 10mm and a length of cca 10-15mm. You could form a little nest on one end of the bundle for the lamp, for better efficiency
6. Push the wire bundle in the other atomiser housing
C. Final assembly:
7. Push the two atomiser housings together
8. Wrap the two atomiser parts in self-adhesive insulating tape separately (it will protect your fingers from heat)
9. Push in the mouthpiece
10. Connect (screw in) the USB modded supply
11. Vape

It is a DIY solution, there is much room for improvement I know, but it is complete, and it works.
I do not spend any more money for the original, expensive batteries or atomisers, just vape from USB port or the AA battery pack.

Good vaping!

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That's insane mate. I appreciate your fearless tinkering
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Way to go! Its this kind of thinking that will finally take us to ecig 2.0! Do you have photos?
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Outstanding! Not really a mod but a complete re-build. Pictures are a must!!! I cant wait to see this.
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MUST .... HAVE ... PICS!! This sounds awesome!
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Cool !!! not only a nicotine fix but you get a tan too!!! LOL
Interesting rethink and well done, however this is gonna be a very thirsty beast with regards to batteries ,10W and a 30second preheat is gonna consume some amperage.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:43 PM   #7
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Here are two photos:
(sorry for the bad quality, but they were taken at lamp light, and my mobile is not quite sensitive)
Components and assembly:


Assembled:


As for the supply: yes, it is two times as thirsty for energy as the original atomiser.
But it is not an issue when supplied from USB or a battery pack (one battery set can supply it whilst the other is charged).

Anyway, energy efficiency should, and I think could be improved by:
- a larger housing where there is room for heat insulation,
- a smaller heating compartment inside,
- to where the liquid is still efficiently delivered by some means (I am playing with the idea of some parallel capillar tubes cut out of syringe tips, but I fear that those could be easily stucked at the required small hole diameter of cca. 0.2-0.3mm, plus a sponge would be needed to suck the liquid out of the tubes),
- heat reflectors, focused to a small area
- quatz lamp (instead of the halogen lamp), that emits heat rather than light (I think those are not available in such small size)

By the way, do not use a more expensive special (optical) halogen lamp for this mod, as those have shorter life, and emit light rather than heat. A common, cheap halogen lamp is much better at heating, and has 40 times as long life.

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:49 AM   #8
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did somebody try this?
zero toys> the wizard stick
on you.tube search for "Wizard Vapor Air Flow Indicator"
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did somebody try this?
zero toys> the wizard stick
on you.tube search for "Wizard Vapor Air Flow Indicator"
Yeah! A little E-Juice and ya got yourself a Nicotine Shotgun Bong

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Old 01-26-2009, 07:39 AM   #10
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Yeah, one should always carefully count nicotine dose, either with cartridges of the original DSE 901 or with the e-liquid drips vaped using this mod.

By the way, the "shotgun" produces really nice vapour, but it uses water (boiling temp.: 100C), whilst we use propylene glycol (188C). Besides, there is a lot of plastics inside, and is powered from 8 batteries...

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