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| | #31 |
| PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china
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I think it was me who first found those micropumps, but that was for another use (cycling cleaning fluid through an atomizer). My juice delivery system doesn't use a pump. But thanks for the tip anyway; appreciated. |
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| Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009
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I keep thinking of how to harness a simple, long standing system close to the heart of all us ex analog smokers.......the simple re-fillable gas lighter. The more you think about it the more atractive the idea becomes! A cigarette lighter, in one action provides both an adjustable flow of liquid gas and (if electric) an ignition spark.All this contained in a very small unit. So adapting this existing technology; One depression of a switch would both release a pressurised (adjustable) aerosol of juice directly onto the heater coil,itself having been energised by the same switch,just as in a lighter.Length of vapour production required would simply be controlled by how long the switch is depressed. Now for the problems; The unit would have to be larger (but not much) to incorporate a suitable battery power source (allmost certainly L-ion) together with its charging /protection circuit.This would allow simple plug in charging as per a mobile phone. Now the really tricky bit,what could one use ,that is non toxic as the pressurised propellant to propel the juice out of it's container.The resultant atomised cloud would be both adjustable in volume (just as a lighter) and allready in an optimum condition for the heater coil to vapourise.Not only would this greatly reduce power requirements (less energy to vapourise an aerosol than a liquid) but would completly solve the "leak" problem of other juice delivery methods. So........what would act as a safe and currently available propellant?? What do aerosol food dispensors (such as whipped cream) use? If such a propellant currently exists then replacement cartridges of say 10ml would give a weeks use |
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| | #33 |
| PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china
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Rubberjonny - yes, i've written a number of times that a lighter would be an ideal solution, portable but not attched to the VP. I don't thnk that pressure is suitable, although an onboard power might be useful. It could be as simple as a push-button dripper, probably with a modified cart to facilitate this. I want to add that the reason I like it as an idea is that it could provide a vaping 'moment', much like smoking one analog that one lights, puffs 10 or so times and stops for a while. |
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| | #34 |
| Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Yorkshire UK
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Years ago I had a 'very' fine mist sprayer that was with a Bonsai tree growing kit, it might have made a great pump for a mod like this....now I wish I still had it......perhaps a trip to the garden centre is on the cards.
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| | #35 |
| PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china
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Pete - those work well but perhaps a perfume bottle pump+nozzle is most idea because smaller with smaller volume throughput. Darn hard to was out the taste though!
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| Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Yorkshire UK
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Have you looked at one of those vicks sinex nasel spray pumps? ..one of those may have some potential.
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| | #37 |
| PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china
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Pete - not sure what you mean but i guess it's basically the same pump design. The simplest possible thing of course is a squeezy bottle and nozzle for creating a mist, but that wouldn't create a known and repeatable dose.
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| | #39 |
| PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china
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Pete - interesting, smaller than i thought and might just be directly transferable ![]() Plus it shoots straight ... |
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| Member Join Date: Apr 2009
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Have you guys ever seen those sample perfume/cologne bottles? There tiny - only about 3/8" diameter.
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