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    Amperage ratings are a maximum, not a constant value. A 5v 100A wallwart would provide the same 1.2A drawn from your ecig as a 5v 2A wallwart, you don't have to lower any power anywhere.

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    This is all great stuff and very easy. I've got everything I need with the exception of the wall wart. I've ordered a 5v 1A wall wart which should be here in less than a week. Then it should be fairly easy from there.

    Thanks for the great mod bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerf View Post
    Amperage ratings are a maximum, not a constant value. A 5v 100A wallwart would provide the same 1.2A drawn from your ecig as a 5v 2A wallwart, you don't have to lower any power anywhere.

    No actually it wouldn't... 5v @ 100ma is not enough to power these atomizers. Don't take my word give it a try. Power output of these transformers are typically within 0.5v+/- & 0.50ma+/- output. Just like you can fry a electronic device using the wrong power adapter even using the same rated voltage output.. same goes for the heating element. And drawing more power then a transformer is rated for would overheat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    Please note I use wattage to describe the heating element. I see too many people using only voltage… when they should using power/wattage to describe the power source /destination.
    Volts/amps are fine. Telling someone to add resistors to the atomizer in their 5v mod until it reads 4 ohms is no different than telling them to put their power at 6.25 watts, and a whole lot easier for them to figure out because all they need is a multimeter and to remember "4 ohms".

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    Power info on the Joye 510 Atomizer
    The heating elements on these units are rated about 4 -5 watts.


    Interesting - the 15 that I've bought all ran between 2 and 2.3 ohms. At 3.7v, that works out to a range of 5.95 to 6.8 watts. I guess the e-cig batteries aren't the only things that are getting overworked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    No actually it wouldn't... 5v @ 100ma is not enough to power these atomizers. Don't take my word give it a try. Power output of these transformers are typically within 0.5v+/- & 0.50ma+/- output. Just like you can fry a electronic device using the wrong power adapter even using the same rated voltage output.. same goes for the heating element. And drawing more power then a transformer is rated for would overheat it.
    He said 100A, not 100ma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnealtx View Post
    Volts/amps are fine. Telling someone to add resistors to the atomizer in their 5v mod until it reads 4 ohms is no different than telling them to put their power at 6.25 watts, and a whole lot easier for them to figure out because all they need is a multimeter and to remember "4 ohms".




    Interesting - the 15 that I've bought all ran between 2 and 2.3 ohms. At 3.7v, that works out to a range of 5.95 to 6.8 watts. I guess the e-cig batteries aren't the only things that are getting overworked.[/font][/color]
    I never said the heating element wouldn't work at a higher wattage then 5 watts. But rather how it works at different power consumptions (heat ranges). As far as me stating the units appear to be 4-5 watts.. I'm stating this appears to be the best heat range. I doubt that the normal power consumption would be rated at 7 watts even on a new OEM battery. Have you done actual power readings instead of basing it off of circuit design?


    Quote Originally Posted by mnealtx View Post
    He said 100A, not 100ma.
    Yes you are correct I apologize for the oversight.
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    TRYING USING PVC PIPE fOR A BATTERY HOLDER or power pack .works good .1/2 inch cold works good for 3 C batterys TAKE APART the dead 510 take the light off the end pull out the center wire hook that to positive on battery pack PVC pipe battery hook - neg. to case of old 510 battery + to center wire. you use 3 D batterys 3C - 3 AAA use 1/2 hot PVC for 3AAA
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    Ya know, I'm already looking forward to a bunch of way interesting posts by zeronullity- also bud, I'd ask if you could do a photo of the casing on that open so we could see how you wired it too, if you get a chance

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    If you use battery to power your project you will have the ma amp you need to heat the atomizer. if you use PVC you will have to glue caps to make the power pack . you also have to take the old dead battery out of the 510 . but do pull the old wires out you will need them . if you need more info email me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by noslenil View Post
    TRYING USING PVC PIPE fOR A BATTERY HOLDER or power pack .works good .1/2 inch cold works good for 3 C batterys TAKE APART the dead 510 take the light off the end pull out the center wire hook that to positive on battery pack PVC pipe battery hook - neg. to case of old 510 battery + to center wire. you use 3 D batterys 3C - 3 AAA use 1/2 hot PVC for 3AAA
    and rock and roll . ................
    Yep, endless variations of cases & power sources... this is only one. I had many of these lying around... so I decided to be creative with one. It's personal preference on what you like, can afford, or construct. Just giving someone another idea is all, as they are fairly common items ... and require no machine shop work. Just solder a few points... & your done. No drilling, measuring, etc.. needed. I will however post more advanced plans as time permits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    As far as me stating the units appear to be 4-5 watts.. I'm stating this appears to be the best heat range.
    Ok, so you were stating your opinion - the way you wrote it, it seemed that you were stating it as fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    I doubt that the normal power consumption would be rated at 7 watts even on a new OEM battery. Have you done actual power readings instead of basing it off of circuit design?
    That's off actual voltage/resistance readings from OEM equipment; a 3.7v battery and atomizers ranging from 2.0 to 2.3 ohms.

    3.7 volts into 2.3 ohms equals 1.6087 amps
    3.7 volts times 1.6087 amps equals 5.95 watts

    3.7 volts into 2 ohms equals 1.85 amps.
    3.7 volts times 1.85 amps equals 6.845 watts.
    Last edited by mnealtx; 11-13-2009 at 08:18 PM.

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