DIY Atomizer anybody?

**bribri** · 02-19-2009, 01:02 AM

They have these nitro glow plugs for remote controlled toy cars as well. Can you do it with those to make it smaller? Or is that what you are talking about?

**mu.zeitgeist** · 02-19-2009, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by bribri

They have these nitro glow plugs for remote controlled toy cars as well. Can you do it with those to make it smaller? Or is that what you are talking about?

Nitro glow plugs are exactly what I'm using. It runs off 1.2-1.5v, and ignites pretty instantly. Racer's Edge #3 plugs seemed to be best as far as sheer amount of vapor goes. I only have one plug left to destroy so wish me luck, then I'm going to have to order them bulk on Ebay, RE goes for $6 at my local hobby store and is too much for what its worth.

I have one "e-cig" semi-built and unfortunately only a wee bit "working" because I drilled right through the coil by accident, a tiny piece of the coil is still warm so it is still vaping albeit just a bit. Maybe after dinner I'll take a look at the last plug.

If anyone wishes to try working with me, the prototype so far is stuffed into a maglite solitair with the bulb end bored out to fit the glow plug. Takes about 2 seconds to tear it apart and stuff the plug in.

So right now I still think this would work, modify the plug right and we should have a BAMF atomizer on our hands for dirt cheap.

**seededcrown** · 02-19-2009, 02:11 AM

well mr. we need to adapt a cart to fit the plug too, or did you already do that. This is an interesting concept to me. I Have nitro r/c cars and i think the glow plug would make an awesome atomizer!

**mu.zeitgeist** · 02-19-2009, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by seededcrown

well mr. we need to adapt a cart to fit the plug too, or did you already do that. This is an interesting concept to me. I Have nitro r/c cars and i think the glow plug would make an awesome atomizer!

Intellicig carts "slip on" to the glow plug. I don't believe this to be a solution though.

I am working on the proper, replicable modifications required to get PG to the element and position the correct atomizer holes so air can slip through the coils.

Otherwise directly dripped onto the glow plugs? Workin' just fine. Try a drop on a plug, go at an angle so the PG goes into the coil and ignite. I highly recommend the solitair for a mouth piece and plug holder. These things do get HOT.

**RjG** · 02-19-2009, 02:47 AM

Or you can rebuild your atomizer

**RjG** · 02-19-2009, 02:48 AM

... put it back together

**RjG** · 02-19-2009, 02:53 AM

video of working rebuilt atomizer
http://members.shaw.ca/RandyG/BlingV2/BLING-V2.wmv

**DaveyRoots** · 02-19-2009, 03:56 AM

Wow I knew it had to be this simple

**madog** · 02-19-2009, 05:32 PM

Glo Plugs - I went this route about 3-4 months ago - I wanted something cheap and easily replaceable and easy to obtain - After much testing and destroying many atomizers (glo-plugs), I abandoned the idea for these reasons.

1. If you order Direct you can get the OEM atomizers for $4.50
2. If you cant order direct you can get them for $6 from Katy at the smokelessshop.com - So you are just replacing a $6 device with a $6 dollar device. That -
A. you have to mod to get to work ( you have to create some way of getting air to go over the coil get heated and the hit the PG. Which means drilling the glo-plug.
C. The voltages are all off - 1.5 - 1.2 volts - Ohms law when voltage goes down the amperage(current) is going to go up at the same wattage or power (temp) so battery life is going to suffer.

I had built a PWM controller - If you look around on the Internet for "glo plug driver" PWM (Pulse Wave Modulator) you will find many schematics and designs - What these circuits to is basically turn on and off the supply voltage at a high rate to the current hungry device allowing it to use a higher voltage with current limiting. Kind of like turning on and of a light switch really fast - This does not allow "HEAT" to over load the device and "BURN" it out.

I also abandoned this device - Which I believe what the good doctor had developed here in this thread - However it have never been confirmed and is just MHO - E-Turbo ..my new invention....
It does work however I do not believe there is a real need - Why?

The Magnum - uses two cr2 batteries when fresh at full charge are about 7.2 volts - in operation they drop to around 6.5 and go down from there in voltage until they expire. I have had the same atomizer in use on the Magnum for well over 2 months now - I Never Clean it - When I fill my Magnum I use a combination technique in which I fill up the cart with a little eyedropper as well as add a couple of drops to the atomizer (pseudo dripping) and this keeps the atomizer lets say semi flooded - HEAT is the enemy of any atomizer. I adds stress to the coil and it initial fails.

RjG is on the right track here - We need a cheap replaceable coil.

If you go down to the same Radio Controlled Hobby Shop and Ask for Nichrome wire they have it - they (hobbyists) use it to make hot wire foam cutter for cutting out airplane wings and various other stuff. I have been experimenting with the SIG Brand (No gauge listed but I will gauge it later)- I have found that 8 turns on a 2-40 screw works out to approx. 4 ohms - the thing heats up "FAST" and should work awesome. I have removed the socket which is ceramic out of a quartz halogen puck light available at most home improvement stores (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...HCL&lpage=none it is a G4 Base) and am utilizing it as a socket. I have worked out a housing and attachment method but haven't had the time to put it all together at this point hopefully today but definitely by the end of the weekend.

What this will do is for $3 allow you to twist up almost an infinite number of coils and tweak them to your projects voltage requirements and TEMPERATURES (Let's say higher for oil instead of water (PG) based substances).

Even if the coils burn out faster more R&D can be done on correct turn ratios to voltage requirements and they are almost have a non-exisistant price. I have got all the parts necessary to build the atomizer case and attachment and have only spent like $10 even with the nichrome wire which SIG and comes in a little package and is like 4 feet long. Will post more as I get things finished.

PS - One thing that always worried me about glo-plugs the warning on the back from the state of Cali that said contains items known to cause cancer? Maybe they fuel left over from the testing process at the factory?

here are some pics -

OH - On a side note I thought is was real interesting the number of "Oregonian's " driving this thread - Makes me proud -