Some questions about vaping with 510 in The E-Cigarette; Originally Posted by andysnowden
doing something similar used to work with my EVO a couple of times but i always ...
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Originally Posted by
andysnowden
doing something similar used to work with my EVO a couple of times but i always worry about burning out the atomiser...will try it if nothing else works! thanks
yea i usually never go over 2-3 seconds. just long enough to get it to operating temp and a solid blow through it.
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My dura did the same thing yesterday (2nd day having it). I kept vaping on it for the rest of the day, it just takes an hour or so to get back up to par on the vapor. I guess its like me not a morning person and just needs some time to wake up hehe.
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Hi,
I just ordered my first E-Ciggie kit and the other supplies..
I know I'm an idiot, but I've noticed that people are saying that you need to buy attys all the time, and need to buy at least 1 atty and 1 battery a month... Is this true??? 
Thankys and Blessings,
*~~~Jules~~~*
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Blessings and May Your Path Be Smooth,
*~~~AngeLsLuv~~~*
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Originally Posted by
AngeLsLuv
Hi,
I just ordered my first E-Ciggie kit and the other supplies..
I know I'm an idiot, but I've noticed that people are saying that you need to buy attys all the time, and need to buy at least 1
atty and 1 battery a month... Is this true???
Thankys and Blessings,
*~~~Jules~~~*
No, you're not an idiot. Idiots don't bother to take the time to educate themselves. 
As you can see from some of these posts, atomizers don't last forever. Some seem to last for ridiculously long periods of time with daily abuse and absolutely no care. Others are babied and coddled, and die within a couple of weeks. As Notsmelly said, it's kind of the luck of the draw.
I've been vaping since January, and I came to the profound conclusion fairly early on that my life was going to be far less stressful if I simply accepted that atomizers are semi-consumable items. I figure on two weeks for an atomizer.
I can hear the screaming and wailing in the background, but the truth is that many of my atomizers last substantially longer than that . . . and a few don't.
In terms of a budget, though, it's not so terrible. Let's say an atomizer is $10 (although you can get them substantially cheaper than that (depending on the model) if you look around and especially if you're willing to buy a fair number of them). Two atomizers a month is $20. Not bad at all when added to the cost of liquid. (I rarely factor in cartridges because I refill them and when they get nasty, I simply restuff them with poly-fiber . . . a very inexpensive solution.)
Anyway, the way I see it, it's all about managing expectations. If you buy an e-cig kit and expect that your ONLY expense for months and months is going to be new cartridges and liquid, then you feel horribly used when your atomizer dies after 3 weeks. On the other hand, if you EXPECT your atomizer to crap out in 2 weeks, then you're very happy indeed that you got an "extra" week out of it. 
I lived through the Chinese New Year when parts were difficult to find . . . and what was out there was expensive. Like Scarlet O'Hara, I swore I'd never go hungry again. Accordingly, I laid in a supply of atomizers and a few extra batteries. (Batteries don't seem to crap out on me like atomizers.)
Once you settle on the model that's your "go-to" vape, it makes sense to buy parts in bulk from China. You can get some awesome deals that way. But for those who are new to e-smoking and still getting their feet wet, I generally recommend that you have 2-3 extra atomizers on hand. And if you get to the point where you only have 1 spare atomizer, you should definitely have more.
For batteries, I generally don't fuss too much with them because I use USB passthroughs fairly often since I work at the computer. I also have an adaptor in my car, so I can vape on a passthrough while I drive. Accordingly, my batteries are primarily used for when I'm out and about. And even then, my "out and about" device is mostly my Screwdriver, which uses non-proprietory batteries (and by that, I mean cheap batteries that aren't specifically designed for e-cigs).
I would imagine that if one were to use e-cig batteries extensively, a battery a month to add into the mix wouldn't be at all unreasonable. Batteries don't last forever, and they hold shorter charges over time. And, of course, sometimes a battery simply goes wonky.
Last edited by JustJulie; 05-30-2009 at 01:33 PM.
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Originally Posted by
andysnowden
Hey all
Ive just received a new titan/dura-c from the electronic cigarette company and have a few questions...would be really grateful for some help!
Have been vaping all day yesterday but today the atomiser i was using doesnt produce the throat hit and decent vapour that it did at the beginning of yesterday. I blew through it and drained it last night and it hasnt made any difference. Does this mean that the atomiser needs replacing already? I was also wondering if using the manual battery reduces the lifespan of the atomiser as there is no cut-off, especially when the atomiser is dry?
Would be really grateful for some help.
Many thanks
Andy
I ordered 2 510', but don't have them ye. I do have 6 npro's and also have the original atomizer going Strong. All I do is soak in alcohol for 20
minutes, blow them out,let sit for a hour. The alcohol evaporates rather
fast. When dry, I put 2 drops of liquid in the atomizer and I'm good to go.
A few times during the 2 months they have gotten sluggish. I clean them
and I'm good to go.
Dave
A Guitar isn't a physical object!:confused:
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Well I definitely think of the atomizers and batteries as semi-consumables. I have about 75 801/Kissbox batteries and atomizers and about 50 sets of the 901 parts. I'd hate to say how many carts and bottles of fluid I have, but let's just say that my refrigerator has a lot less space for food than it used to have. I rotate out atomizers every day and blow out (with canned air) the one I've used at the end of the day. I'm one of those types who vapes continuously all day long with low or no-nic fluid. This is all a small cost compared to smoking tobacco.
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Originally Posted by
andysnowden
Thanks for the help guys...i have been dripping into the atomiser. I guess what Im unsure about is whether the atomisers suddenly stop working or whether there is a gradual decline in its performance as Ive noticed with other ecigs. Have popped in the backup atomiser and its working like a dream again! Will leave the other one to drain and try it again tomorrow. Would be really good to find a
PV atomiser that works consistently as my EVO was terrible like that...it would just decline in performance until it was pretty much unuseable.
Thanks again
Andy
Glad you're back up and going.
Ironically, the EVO/M401 is insanely easy to *not* flood...just dip the wick into a few drops in a soda cap, shot glass, very little, just press the exposed wick to the liquid, and it will absorb 'the right amount,' much less risk of flooding an atty versus dripping a random amount on top of an atty wick...
The 510 I love, but the M401/EVO/Pilot is a *great* way to tate new flavors, a few drops into a soda bottle cap, press wick in for a few seconds, put on an empty cart mouthpiece, and vape away :-)
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Originally Posted by
JustJulie
I lived through the Chinese New Year when parts were difficult to find . . . and what was out there was expensive. Like Scarlet O'Hara, I swore I'd never go hungry again. Accordingly, I laid in a supply of atomizers and a few extra batteries. (Batteries don't seem to crap out on me like atomizers.)
Come on, fess up..how many? :-)
And yeah, agree totally on the USB pass-throughs, they're great. batteries for when you 'have to' (out, or walking around/working moving around), USB passthroughs the rest of the time (or a passthrough and a portable USB charger pack).
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[quote=andysnowden;312400]Hey all
Ive just received a new titan/dura-c from the electronic cigarette company and have a few questions...would be really grateful for some help!
Have been vaping all day yesterday but today the atomiser i was using doesnt produce the throat hit and decent vapour that it did at the beginning of yesterday. I blew through it and drained it last night and it hasnt made any difference. Does this mean that the atomiser needs replacing already? I was also wondering if using the manual battery reduces the lifespan of the atomiser as there is no cut-off, especially when the atomiser is dry?
Would be really grateful for some help.
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I dont have a 510 but the theory is the same. Did you try to switching out the batteries? I had what I thought was an atty problem, went through the steps just like you did. Turned out it was a battery issue.
Just because the green LED comes on it doesnt mean the battery is fully charged. I measured a batt with a freshly turned green LED and one that sat in the charger overnight and found a difference of nearly .75 volts. The thought here is that there is a threshold where some attys may need optimum voltage, others are more flexible.
I'm thinking about getting a pass-thru. If nothing else it will be a tool to eliminate problems and help diagnose. Good luck.
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