NJoy or Kissbox Classic - The final countdown

[BigBuxNoWhammy]

Originally Posted by GiantShift

The free shipping back to them is how I imagine this industry should be, but I guess it takes time. +1 to NJoy for that

Anyone else have experience with both and want to chime in?

I have needed a few replacements already from njoy, and Mark has never asked me to send anything back to him. I kept them incase but he never asked me for them.

[kaesecake]

Originally Posted by RatInDaHat

For what it is worth, i'd go Janty. After having three bad atomizers in a row from Njoy i gave up on them.

So far the jantys have been working well for me, but i would go classic if i bought one.

I would actually recommend a different starter product all together. If you want to know, just ask.

-Dusty-

Would that starter product be the dse901? Just wondering, b/c I got mine today and after only having used the health cig, I'm like "oh...now I get it"

Sorry, maybe I have no right to throw in my two cents (with my newness), but isn't another plus for NJoy that their product interchanges with generic pen styles,while Janty does not...?

[lukewells]

Ah, an interesting poll for me to watch. I am considering a Kissbox classic in the future when I upgrade from generics (if e smoking works out well for me) and I believe Njoy are supposed to be one of the better e cigs, so its good to see the Janty is winning (lets hope those switch problems are all fixed)

Thanks

Luke

[bUrNSwHeNIp]

Hmmmm, I don't know lukewells, the KissBox Atomizer fits the batteries of Crown7, E-Puffer and I suspect quite a few others and the cartridges seem to be identical to most also.

I think that most of the penstyle parts are interchangeable with each other across the board.

From what I have read, and seen for myself, is that the main difference with the KB, from the others, is the patented 4 hole atomizer, and separate switch/battery designs.

Although I've not been able to compare all the different penstyles out there, I have been able to closely look at a few and compare them to my KissBox.
The overall look and feel of KB seems to be more compact and have a less clunky/chunky?, (for lack of a better word), feel to them.

Others I work with, have different brands, and we have inspected them together and tried each others.(this is how I know that the cartridges and batteries are interchangeable)

They all want the KissBox now.

The ease of draw, amount of smoke and innovative options put it a notch above the others and, I believe, is well worth the few extra $'s.
For me, It's the DSE901 of penstyles.......(I've got one of those also)......just with an easier draw, and larger, longer lasting capacity.

I think that leaford, or RatInDaHat could probably give a better comparison as it would appear that they both own just about every one of these things ever made!

Now, if the industry could just come up with the technology to address the general reliability of e-cigarettes as a whole......well,....LOL.....that's another topic altogether!

[lukewells]

Originally Posted by bUrNSwHeNIp

It's the DSE901 of penstyles.......(I've got one of those also)......just with an easier draw, and larger, longer lasting capacity.

Glad so hear that I've just orderd a couple of DSE901, hopefully arriving Tuesday.

Originally Posted by bUrNSwHeNIp

Now, if the industry could just come up with the technology to address the general reliability of e-cigarettes as a whole......well,....LOL.....that's another topic altogether!

I'm not so sure if there is away to address the problem, from what I have read, the atomiser is the biggest problem, and I can see why. The technology is similar to that of fog machines, and what do the instruction manuals tell you with those? Don't let them run dry! ..... which is unavoidable with e-cigs, you don't notice the cartridge is running out until the smoke decreases or you get a burning taste..... either way some running dry has occurred and these atomisers are going to burn up.

Maybe a new way could be explored using a piezo electric vibration plate as an atomiser, submerged in an e.liquid capsule, with a light pressure sensitive membrane that releases the vapour only and not the liquid. That would certainly be able to be made more reliable.

[TropicalBob]

Lukewells: Go look at at the original patents by Ruyan. Your description is close to what these are supposed to be -- but price got in the way.

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Hi Luke

I only smoke carts about halfway and then change them. Means I spend more time squeezing out the half-empty carts but I've always got plenty of melange liquid...

[sanneke]

Originally Posted by TheEmperorOfIceCream

Hi Luke

I only smoke carts about halfway and then change them. Means I spend more time squeezing out the half-empty carts but I've always got plenty of melange liquid...

I do the same thing.
In the evening I have 2 or 3 carts, and I squeeze the left over juice in a bottle, that's enough to last me for a day or two.
I use that all day long to top off the cart, and do the same thing 2 days later....

[lukewells]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

Lukewells: Go look at at the original patents by Ruyan. Your description is close to what these are supposed to be -- but price got in the way.

Damn, thought I had come up with an original idea then lol

Well, if the e.cig peeps have already thought of this, then maybe they should re-visit. OK I understand that price may be a barrier here, but surely the heavy e.smokers would be happy to pay a premium for a product with long term reliability.


How do the e.cig makers get away with the minimum of 24month warranty on products sold in Europe? EU Directive 1999/44/EC

[GiantShift]

Just an update. I ordered the Janty Kissbox after careful consideration and the responses here Should be here tomorrow! I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Thanks everyone here for your support!