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Noob - refill or replace?
I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.
I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.
I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.
I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.
And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.
Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?
Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.
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definitely refill. you get the best experience possible by refilling, you don't have to use a syringe, it's super easy, takes a matter of seconds. It's cheaper, and you get more vapor and throat hit because you can keep topping them off, once a cart gets mostly empty, it might as well be all the way empty, because the quality of vapor and throat hit sucks. Good luck! I am pretty new at this but refilling is the best way to go IMO... maybe get some carts for when you are out and about and don't have time to refill, but in that case I would suggest filling some up yourself before you go out or whatever.
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I have the 510, and it's about the size of a 100s cigarette, just a tad longer, so (personally), I don't think it's large at all.
There are pre-filled cartridges out there for the 510. I just bought a black one, and it came with pre-filled cartridges, plus there were more available on the vendor's website. I'm not sure if they come in a variety of flavors, though. I don't have any problem with filling. I don't use a syringe at all. I use a drop bottle and that's all. Only takes a couple of seconds...
As for batteries, I know the 510 has a bad rep for batteries -- having to change them every couple of hours -- but that's not the case with me. Maybe I don't use it as often as the average person, but I change batteries about 2-3 times a day. I carry a fully charged spare with me if I'm going to be away from a charger for too long (alternatively, I could buy a PCC, I suppose).
I would try a little of both, if I were you (and going for the 510). Get a few pre-filled carts, and a small bottle of liquid, and see which works best for you.
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I started ecigs about 3 weeks ago. since then I bought two RN 4078, Joye510, DSEcigar,
M401, and two 8084 micros. All work fine, but last week I bought my first DSE901, and it is by far my favorite.. I refill them all
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Good advice. Sounds like I'll stick with the 510. I want to order today.
The catch now seems to be finding a place to order the 510 and some zero-nicotine accessories from the same place. I wanted the Scorpion 510, but dietsmokes doesn't seem to have any zero-nic juice or carts.
And I'm getting a little confused with cartridges. From what I read, a Joye510 is the same as a Janty Dura, so the cartridges should be interchangable, right? I don't want to buy something incompatible.
And then there's the issue of finding this stuff from a US company, so I can get my stuff ASAP.
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the 510 goes by many names, Dura-c,titan,yeti. All parts are interchangeable. You will not be disappointed with the 510.
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US company for the 510 manual?
e-smokey treats
e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's
I've heard great things about this co. They have zero nic. in some flavors and all the 510 accesories.
I just ordered from them Saturday, hoping it will be here today or tommorow.
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Carts are a pain

Originally Posted by
ClockWorK
I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.
I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.
I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.
I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.
And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.
Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?
Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.
I've tried quite a few and as much as I loved my 901, I have to admit the Joye510 is the machine for me. I do receoomend watching every video on YouTube to see every side. One thing you'll notice is that when they test, everyone seems to take a 5 second drag. Personally, I can't do that! On the 901 I got in the habit of taking a drag, stopping and dragging again. On the 901 I take a 2-3 second drag and get the same results.
I don't like carrying cartidges because then you have to deal with handling the cartridges and the caps. I carry a little bottle of liquid. I just top off the cartridge with 2-4 drops (depending how long I want to vape) and that's it. I end up replacing the filling in the carts about once a week or soon if I'm in the mood.
The biggest problem with a cartridge is you never know when it's going to run out and I'm not very good at saying, "okay I've had 12 puffs, that's one cigarette" and stop. But determining how many drops works for you as "one cigarette" you can just vape until the vape starts to die down. I'd tell you most carts only equal 4-10 cigarettes, but the problem is a cigarette is differnt for every one. If you take 3 second short drags like me, it will last longer then the 5 second heavy vapers out there.
The ONLY advantage analog cigrettes have is that you know when you're done.
I find the 510 more consistant and less likely to clog than my 901. As for the manual switch, after a week you won't even know it's there. It just becomes second nature.
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Originally Posted by
ClockWorK
I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.
I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.
I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.
I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.
And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.
Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?
Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.
Welcome to ECF ClockWork:
You are better off with the (manual battery of Dura-C, 510, Titan, etc.. ) Buy a kit that comes with a few prefilled cartridges. (Just make sure you get the manual battery.) It is made for dripping, which I am thinking you may gravitate to. (A few drops of liquid on the atomizer every so often and you don't need to use the prefilled cartridges.) But it is just fine for using the prefilled cartridges also. So, get yourself a good bottle of liquid too.
Just get one in your hand and then you will be able to make the decision as to how you want to fill it, and what works best for you.
Good luck to you.
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Okay. I'm on the edge of pushing the 'proceed to checkout' button.
$59.95 JOYE 510 Electronic Cigarette Kit - Black - Blue
$3.00 Blank Cartridges for the JOYE 510 Electronic Cigarette (5 Blanks)
$12.99 Vanilla e-Smokey Treats e-Liquid - Zero Nicotine 0MG/ML - PG
Am I missing anything? More blanks? I dunno..
I'll come back for the PCC in a week if I don't hate the kit.
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