Do you Vape around your children?
I have three children aged 11 years, 9 years and 4 months. They have grown up watching me fight my addiction. I never smoked within their eyesight or in the house. They cheered me on when I beat it back for a few months and even a year at a time. They raise hell along with my wife when I falter, sneak off and return stinking of it.
So now I vape. I explained to them what it is and how it works. "Whatever Dad, just don't smoke" is the short story. I haven't vaped in front of my children. I like the quiet outside break. I do vape in the house after I put them to bed and still feel a bit naughty about it. I do vape when I'm around my dad and I never smoked around him. I still don't vape in public. I almost vaped when the kids were in the car with me today.
Looking forward to lowering my nic levels in the coming months. Looking forward to not needing nic at all. Looking forward to not needing gear around me.
Last edited by genxblacksmith; 02-26-2012 at 08:19 AM.
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Well I think it's a good idea to be cautious about vaping with your kids. Not that I think it sets a bad example. As kids get older, they pretty much do what they want. Whether you smoked or not, if they want to smoke, they're going to smoke, if not, they won't.
The only concern I'd really have is about the nicotine in vapor. Though I know it dissipates quickly, we really don't know how much second hand nicotine we're giving off with these things. Maybe a lot, maybe none. Perhaps it's for the best not to vape around them.
My daughter hated us smoking. We smoked around her regularly as she grew up, but never in the house - outdoors, in the garage perhaps, but never inside the house.
However, we did smoke in the car until California law made it illegal to smoke with minors in the car, and then when she turned 18, we gradually slipped back into the habit of smoking in the car again.
Her complaining of smelling like cigarette smoke (now, mind you, it's a valid complaint for an 18-year-old nonsmoker to make) was what caused us to pick up ecigs, although originally it was "only for use in the car". But it changed everything. My husband and I have now both quit smoking and we vape instead. She does still on occasion complain about the aroma of a couple of our juice choices if the car's windows are completely rolled up and we're both vaping heavy (which isn't a common thing, but has happened like twice in the last month), but most of the time, she doesn't even smell it. She absolutely doesn't smell it in the house. She has zero interest whatsoever in vaping, although she doesn't particularly care if we do it in front of her... she just doesn't want to hear us talking about it, because it just doesn't interest her.
Now, admittedly, my kid's over 18. It's a little different when you're talking little kids. If you enjoy the outside break, take the outside break. But would I have vaped around her while she was growing up? Yes, because I did smoke around her, and vaping would have been a thousand times better than the secondhand smoke that she experienced.
But if your kids have been separated from your smoking habits, there's very little reason for them to see your vaping habits if you'd prefer to keep them private. Keep that break, keep the separation there, and work on lowering your nicotine down to zero. Take it one step at a time.
Will it traumatize them to see it? Doubtful. But it's a judgment call you have to make, based on how you and your kids interact, and how your family interacts. It may well be a person-by-person call.
I wish you all the luck in the world, though.
My two cents - take it for what it's worth or ignore me completely. Whatever you do, don't take it personally. I'm an opinionated person:
There is no danger of nicotine inhalation by your kids UNLESS you aren't inhaling. If you are one of those cigar puffer style hitters and you let that vapor into the air un-inhaled then it's loaded. If you can smell the flavor of your ejuice then it's loaded. If you get a comment like OOOH that smells good, you have a problem, houston. Some people say that you only get 10%-40% of the nicotine through vaping. Dispersed amongst your entire house that's negligible. What you breathe out is only water vapor though and as such is not harmful. Don't believe me? Take a nice dark juice and breathe out into a folded up tissue. NOTHING. Do that with a cigarette once and see what you get... If that doesn't make you want to quit nothing will! Besides, nicotine is about as dangerous as caffeine when you disregard its addictive properties.
Your biggest concern should be locking up your ejuice and keeping your ecig out of their reach at all times. If a young child smelled chocolate juice and drank it - it could kill them. If you make DIY juice and have pure nicotine solution around it's an even greater hazard. It should definitely be mixed in a well ventilated area with no children anywhere near it. Lastly, I would say that regardless of all I have just said that any sort of addictive behavior in front of your children increases their likelihood of becoming addicted to things themselves. If they see that you have a weakness then they will think well, screw it, my parents couldn't hack it how am I any different? My mom smoked and I swore I never would and here I am. I noticed as a child that after a while I started to enjoy the smell of her second hand smoke. This is bad! I don't have any children but if I did I would want them to think of me as Superman - the man with the plan who can do anything! In short, I'd go vape in the garage or in your den or bedroom or bathroom or what have you, and after they sleep vape on the couch but not in front of them unless say I was on a long road trip and there was no alternative and only after a long talk about it. That's my opinion. I hope it helps.
Edit: thanks for the likes!
Last edited by ShogaNinja; 02-26-2012 at 08:32 AM.
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I would say if you think you kids are sophisticated enough to handle it after having explained it to them, and with continuing education they perhaps will be alright and feel happy that it IS better then smoking. at least as far as we know. lol.
You posed a very vexing question regarding vaping around young children. I carry a ton of guilt for the years we smoked around my now mid-20's son. I started smoking at age 14, and my parents (like many then) were heavy smokers. Of course that was a long time ago when smoking was very widely viewed as a very 'cool' thing to do, and many of the health risks were not known. However, my son does not smoke, always hated it, and would never even consider smoking. Who knows - maybe getting an in-depth experience of how awful it smelled, and the intense ill health effects smoking wreaked on me, helped insure he would never be tempted to come near them. As for the teenage 'rebellion' thing, smoking was surely never going to be an avenue he would explore in that regard.
Although there are still far too many young people who start smoking, thankfully for many youngsters these days smoking is viewed as a very uncool thing to do. I have a few non-smoking friends whose kids did start smoking, and have sometimes wondered if it wasn't partly because of that teen drive for independence thing; or that they didn't have the up-close and disgusting experience of just how awful the things can become once you are hooked that my son did. We sometimes refer to this jokingly as 'negative parenting'.
What I will never be able to understand is the anti-vaping forces who argue that e-cigs should be banned because youngsters may view them as less dangerous than smoking real cigs, and/or that they are more 'enticing' because there are so many 'non-tobacco' flavors available. I would like to ask those advancing that theory who are are parents -- if your child was intent upon trying smoking, would you rather they inhale a vaporized liquid, or buy real cigarettes? I can't fathom a parent wanting to even contemplate option #2.
If I had any I would. JMHO
Same for me, I don't have kids, but I don't stop vaping when there are kids around me. I keep asking their parents if it bothers them, of course. If there's a danger with "passive" vaping, we should all stop breathing at once (what about pollution then ???). An old study (THE BACTERICIDAL ACTION OF PROPYLENE GLYCOL VAPOR ON MICROORGANISMS SUSPENDED IN AIR) established that vaporized PG is killing baterias in the air, which means it could be a good thing to vape inside :-)
Last edited by Nocturnalpriest; 02-26-2012 at 10:36 AM.
Everything around us is much or less poison.
My opinion is that vaping is less bad thing we can do around our child. In other case, must not start the car engine when there is kids!