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bluewolf · 11-12-2008, 02:34 AM

Hi. I just found this site a few days ago. Wish I had found it before I bought my super mini (DSE103) from China. could have got a better deal right here in the states. I'm looking foreward to reading all the posts (may take a month or two) Just ordered some kick juice to try dripping my super and refil the carts, I also just ordered a pen style from myecig.com with 2 extra atomizers, hope I can get better results. I watched some videos by Dustin at e-cigreview.com. Helped me make my decision on which one to buy. Looking foreward to quitting smoking, My company is going smoke free on Jan. 1st
and i'm hoping this will be allowed.

bluewolf · 11-12-2008, 02:37 AM

Hmmm... Why are there some catergories that I can't post in? Says I don't have permission.

steffie · 11-12-2008, 02:48 AM

welcome!I too work for a company that is going tobacco free on Jan 1. You won't even be allowed to smoke in your own car in the parking lot.So far, I am encouraged that this will work for me. I wish you lots of luck as well.

bluewolf · 11-12-2008, 02:56 AM

They told we CAN smoke in our cars but were not allowed to got to our cars on break so we have to go 8+ hours without a smoke

Lurker · 11-12-2008, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steffie

welcome!I too work for a company that is going tobacco free on Jan 1. You won't even be allowed to smoke in your own car in the parking lot.So far, I am encouraged that this will work for me. I wish you lots of luck as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewolf

They told we CAN smoke in our cars but were not allowed to got to our cars on break so we have to go 8+ hours without a smoke

Holy crap! I can't believe it's come to this. Thank God my company is not like that. You should be able to do whatever you want on "your" brake. That is just crazy

Oh yeah, you can post everywhere after 15 posts.

TropicalBob · 11-12-2008, 03:14 AM

Sarasota County, Fla., refuses to employ anyone who uses tobacco in any form at any time. It cannot be used even off-duty. And e-cig use will test positive since they test for cotinine. Any use of nicotine results in cotinine in the blood and urine.

No cigs. No pipes or cigars. No smokeless. And no e-cigs. Look for more and more companies to start testing for cotinine along with other mandatory drug tests for employees. It's all to save on insurance.

While the stated intent is to prevent tobacco use and its expensive health consequences, it's really a no-nicotine law. And that prohibition is spreading among local government agencies, particularly firemen and police. Expect some in the private sector to follow suit.

That's one way to ban e-smoking.

Lurker · 11-12-2008, 03:34 AM

Wow. Seems all the cops smoke out here. I'm that much happier to be self employed.

bluewolf · 11-12-2008, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurker

Oh yeah, you can post everywhere after 15 posts.

Ahhh... OK

The company policy sates: "Tobacco free facility" Doesn't say anything about nicotine or water vapor

MagusSteele · 11-12-2008, 04:08 AM

Good luck bluewolf,
It wont be the E-cig that gets you in trouble, it will be stupidity.
"how come HE gets to?"
I can Hear it Now

Or some other moron complaining. That is always the problem with company policys we dont like. Some moron complained.

P.C. policys are taking down not only this country but the whole world.

nicowolf · 11-12-2008, 11:22 AM

This is my first post - have been lurking for about a month now. I am still waiting for my first device to arrive. I just wanted to chime in on this post.

I work in a hospital where the policy has been a tobacco free work day for two years now. I am not permitted to smoke or chew tobacco at any time during my shift, not even on my breaks. The consequences for bucking this policy escalate more sharply than any other policy on the books. The first infraction results in a warning - only if it is outdoors. The next one is a write-up. The third is automatic termination. There is no forgiveness - even if it is twenty years between infractions. I don't even have to be caught in the act. All that is required is an accusation from ANYONE. That means if any one of the 500 or so employees I come into contact with daily feel I slighted them, they only have to accuse me to get me in very serious hot water. They don't even have to have proof

. I have already been falsely accused once.

The latest policy is that as of October 1 of this year, all new hires will be screened for continine and anyone with a positive continine test will not be hired. That means if you are on the patch, the lozenge, or the gum you can't work there. All nicotine becomes continine in your body.

For the past two years I have been using nicotine gum for 8-1/2 hours a day. I also spend my lunch walking two blocks, through a parking deck, taking the stairs down to the bottom, and stepping out under a bridge to smoke half a cigarette

, then reversing the process to get back to work. I use gum to cover my breath and Febreeze to cover the odor on my clothes. I am extremely careful not to be visible by any window on hospital property - not an easy feat since the campus spans three blocks. And someone STILL approached the director of my department saying they know I am smoking on my lunch and does she want them to pursue this.

The antis at this hospital judge EVERYTHING. They have felt the need to try and enlist my mother's help in admonishing me about my coffee drinking

when I have tried to have breakfast in the cafeteria with her.

Where does this end? When do we stand up to these busybodies and tell them to focus on the crap they are putting into their own bodies and keep their nose out of our business? I am livid - but I can't risk alienating anyone as they could accuse me again.

I don't mean to incite a riot even though the way I feel is riotous. I really meant to share my story to illustrate for you all just how crazy they have gotten about trying to control my body. It has nothing to do with second hand smoke or smell since it now involves tobacco free alternatives. This is strictly about public relations and CONTROL.

11-12-2008, 02:34 AM	#1
bluewolf Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 147	1st post Hi. I just found this site a few days ago. Wish I had found it before I bought my super mini (DSE103) from China. could have got a better deal right here in the states. I'm looking foreward to reading all the posts (may take a month or two) Just ordered some kick juice to try dripping my super and refil the carts, I also just ordered a pen style from myecig.com with 2 extra atomizers, hope I can get better results. I watched some videos by Dustin at e-cigreview.com. Helped me make my decision on which one to buy. Looking foreward to quitting smoking, My company is going smoke free on Jan. 1st and i'm hoping this will be allowed.

11-12-2008, 03:34 AM	#7
Lurker Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 100	Wow. Seems all the cops smoke out here. I'm that much happier to be self employed. __________________ Not smoking anymore. Loving my swedish snus

11-12-2008, 11:22 AM	#10
nicowolf NicFiend Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: near Akron, OH, USA Posts: 1,366	The "antis" are everywhere This is my first post - have been lurking for about a month now. I am still waiting for my first device to arrive. I just wanted to chime in on this post. I work in a hospital where the policy has been a tobacco free work day for two years now. I am not permitted to smoke or chew tobacco at any time during my shift, not even on my breaks. The consequences for bucking this policy escalate more sharply than any other policy on the books. The first infraction results in a warning - only if it is outdoors. The next one is a write-up. The third is automatic termination. There is no forgiveness - even if it is twenty years between infractions. I don't even have to be caught in the act. All that is required is an accusation from ANYONE. That means if any one of the 500 or so employees I come into contact with daily feel I slighted them, they only have to accuse me to get me in very serious hot water. They don't even have to have proof . I have already been falsely accused once. The latest policy is that as of October 1 of this year, all new hires will be screened for continine and anyone with a positive continine test will not be hired. That means if you are on the patch, the lozenge, or the gum you can't work there. All nicotine becomes continine in your body. For the past two years I have been using nicotine gum for 8-1/2 hours a day. I also spend my lunch walking two blocks, through a parking deck, taking the stairs down to the bottom, and stepping out under a bridge to smoke half a cigarette, then reversing the process to get back to work. I use gum to cover my breath and Febreeze to cover the odor on my clothes. I am extremely careful not to be visible by any window on hospital property - not an easy feat since the campus spans three blocks. And someone STILL approached the director of my department saying they know I am smoking on my lunch and does she want them to pursue this. The antis at this hospital judge EVERYTHING. They have felt the need to try and enlist my mother's help in admonishing me about my coffee drinking when I have tried to have breakfast in the cafeteria with her. Where does this end? When do we stand up to these busybodies and tell them to focus on the crap they are putting into their own bodies and keep their nose out of our business? I am livid - but I can't risk alienating anyone as they could accuse me again. I don't mean to incite a riot even though the way I feel is riotous. I really meant to share my story to illustrate for you all just how crazy they have gotten about trying to control my body. It has nothing to do with second hand smoke or smell since it now involves tobacco free alternatives. This is strictly about public relations and CONTROL.

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11-12-2008, 02:37 AM	#2
bluewolf Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 147	Hmmm... Why are there some catergories that I can't post in? Says I don't have permission.

11-12-2008, 02:48 AM	#3
steffie Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA - Texas Posts: 10	welcome!I too work for a company that is going tobacco free on Jan 1. You won't even be allowed to smoke in your own car in the parking lot.So far, I am encouraged that this will work for me. I wish you lots of luck as well.

11-12-2008, 02:56 AM	#4
bluewolf Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 147	They told we CAN smoke in our cars but were not allowed to got to our cars on break so we have to go 8+ hours without a smoke

11-12-2008, 03:14 AM	#6
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Sarasota County, Fla., refuses to employ anyone who uses tobacco in any form at any time. It cannot be used even off-duty. And e-cig use will test positive since they test for cotinine. Any use of nicotine results in cotinine in the blood and urine. No cigs. No pipes or cigars. No smokeless. And no e-cigs. Look for more and more companies to start testing for cotinine along with other mandatory drug tests for employees. It's all to save on insurance. While the stated intent is to prevent tobacco use and its expensive health consequences, it's really a no-nicotine law. And that prohibition is spreading among local government agencies, particularly firemen and police. Expect some in the private sector to follow suit. That's one way to ban e-smoking.

11-12-2008, 04:08 AM	#9
MagusSteele ECF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NorthCoast, Cleveland, OH, USA, Terra, Sol System Posts: 536	Good luck bluewolf, It wont be the E-cig that gets you in trouble, it will be stupidity. "how come HE gets to?" I can Hear it Now Or some other moron complaining. That is always the problem with company policys we dont like. Some moron complained. P.C. policys are taking down not only this country but the whole world.