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09-06-2009, 10:03 PM
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|  The Wonderful World of Vaping: An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs (Parts 1 through 6) You'll notice that this thread currently is closed to replies. That's only to keep all six installments grouped together. However, I welcome your comments. To enable that, I've started this other thread The Wonderful World of Vaping: COMMENTS in the General Discussion forum. Don't hesitate to share your questions, suggestions, and critique there. . Everything (or, at least, a lot of things) You Wanted to Know About E-cigs, But Were Afraid To Ask Part 1 (of 6)  Men and women of all ages and nationalities are enjoying the wonders of vaping. It appears that you are considering becoming (or have decided to be, or already are) one of us. Welcome! This multi-part series of long posts began as an email to a smoker friend, whom I am attempting to convert to – what has become my all-consuming hobby and one of my greatest pleasures – vaping. I had referred him to ECF, but he was overwhelmed and found it difficult to wade through the myriad choices, details, and opinions. [ECF’s greatest strength (which I stole as the subtitle for this series) is its greatest weakness. You could earn a doctorate getting a handle on all that’s here!] What follows is an expanded version of my attempt to guide him, providing (in one place) the overview that I wish I had had when I first started. It became a bit of a magnum opus … and I realized that it might have some use to other new or potential vapers. This series overlaps and is intended to supplement the outstanding “Sticky” introductory threads and videos at the top of this and other sub-forums. Here’s what we’ll be covering in this six-part series: TABLE OF CONTENTS Part 1 – The Wonderful World
Part 3 – The Software and the Process
The Wonderful World of Vaping CAVEATS:
That friend of mine had two concerns about e-cigs. Perhaps you share them. Here’s my response. Health The e-cigarette itself (i.e., the hardware) is merely an electronic device for vaporizing the liquid put in it. The liquid used in an e-cigarette contains:
 To find out more, explore the E-cigarette News and Law and the E-Cigarette on the Forums. I found articles like this and this especially helpful. Cost After an initial upfront investment, the cost of vaping will be less – perhaps significantly less – than smoking (unless you get carried away, as some of us do, with buying many different types of devices and purchasing the most expensive e-liquid). And even upfront, it may not be that much more. I don’t know how many tobacco cigarettes you smoke each day or the price where you live. For the purpose of comparison (and round numbers), I’m going to assume about 1.5 packs/day (or one carton per week), at a price of $6/pack. If so, analog cigarettes cost you $60 per week … not counting ashtrays and lighters, deodorizers and air fresheners, and having to replace clothing with ugly holes caused by errant embers).  E-cigs come in all shapes, sizes, colors, flavors ... and costs. A typical starter kit runs around $50-$70, but in Parts 4 and 5, I’ll be providing links to kits costing around $40 (often with free shipping). Adding in $30 worth of initial supplies (replacement parts and e-liquid), that’s an upfront investment of $70, which should keep you going in hardware for quite some time and in e-liquid for at least one to two weeks. Thereafter, you will need only more e-liquid and replacement parts (and maybe a few accessories), averaging perhaps $20-$30 per week. WHAT IT IS ... AND WHY TO DO IT Why is an e-cig is better than an analog tobacco cigarette?  1. First and foremost (to me) is the enjoyment, e.g.: it tastes better ... there is so much choice and variety ... and it’s a gadget (“boys and their toys”). I never really wanted to quit smoking – I enjoyed it (nothing like I’ve come to enjoy vaping, however). 2. I am not a medical doctor (nor do I play one on TV), so I’m in no position to make any medical claims. I just know that I feel better about vaping than I did about smoking. Investigate relevant information and decide for yourself. blank line 3. It is cheaper; it may turn out to be half the cost of your analog smoking. blank line 4. Although it is a habit, it is not “a filthy habit.”  5. You can vape (not everywhere, but) in many more places and circumstances than you can smoke.
7. It has its own subculture, e.g., ECF: a place to hang out with other similarly free-thinking, often wacky people, who share my enthusiasm and many of my experiences. Other vapers might reprioritize that list (and certainly could provide other examples), but, I believe, all would agree with it. Shown below are the avatars or photos of just some of the more prolific members here.  What is an e-cig? It was invented only five years ago in China…  …and has quickly spread throughout the world, growing rapidly in popularity, and recently brought to public attention by celebrities, with mall kiosks, on TV news, and, in late August, a 30-second commercial on CNN.  Virtually all of the hardware (at least the atomizers) – and most of the software (i.e., the liquid) – still is manufactured in China by a half-dozen companies and imported into the U.S. [oops, there’s my Yank perspective again] by myriad suppliers … or you can order directly from China (which I, and many others, have done successfully, e.g., from Heaven Gifts).  Electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes, or e-cigs, or PVs (personal vaporizers) come in all shapes, sizes and colors, e.g., those shown in this photo (courtesy of Deadcat2). [See also Elendil’s photo thread.]  Starting from the bottom of this photo:
This has been merely an introductory overview. Still interested? Well… PART 2 Teaser In the next installment, we’ll be examining the hardware (i.e., the devices):
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09-09-2009, 04:00 AM
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| The Wonderful World of Vaping (Part 2 of 6) You'll notice that this thread is closed to replies. That's only to keep all six installments grouped together. However, I welcome your comments. To facilitate that, I've started this other thread in the General Discussion forum. Don't hesitate to pose questions and share your reactions, suggestions, and critique. [BTW, "Junior" members can post replies to threads in that forum and in most forums.] An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs Part 2 (of 6) Please see Part 1 (the preceding post) for an explanation of what this six-part series is all about, including a Table of Contents and relevant caveats. This part focuses on... THE HARDWARE Whatever the shape or size, virtually* all e-cigs have 3 components (or 4, if you count the mouthpiece that contains the cartridge), illustrated in this photo of the smallest e-cig:  1. The cartridge (or cart) contains the e-liquid (the flavored, nicontined, vaporable PG and/or VG). Shown below is the cartridge of a “Penstyle” (the longest category of e-cig), with the stuffing pulled out a bit by those tweezers.  The cart is stuffed with material like polyfill or fluval (or even teabags or coffee filter), which absorbs the e-liquid (prefilled or inserted by the user) and makes it available to… 2. The atomizer (or atty) vaporizes the e-liquid, turning it into inhalable/exhalable vapor (which looks and feels like smoke, but tastes so much better). The first photo above shows an example of an exposed wick atomizer (suitable for “dipping,” discussed in Part 3). Some atomizer wicks are inside a tube, as shown in the next picture of the atomizer for an RN4081 (at 105 mm, on the cusp between super-mini and mini size and certainly shorter than the penstyle) – exterior and cross-section:  And the steel wool wick can be “low bridge” or “high bridge”, as shown in these two versions of the atty for the Mini sized DSE901.  3. The battery (or batt) powers the atomizer. It is this part especially that varies the shape and size so much. Most batteries are the same shape as the one in the first picture, but vary in length. [The bigger the battery, the less frequently it needs to be recharged. And, all other things being equal (which they are not in this rapidly changing cottage industry), the bigger the battery (and certainly the higher its voltage), the more powerful the experience.] Some batteries, however, have a very different shape, rising out of the concept (typical in hybrids) of a unique battery housing using generic batteries. The example shown below is one of the versions of Imeo’s GG with its alternative battery options.  Most batteries have an automatic switch (e.g., turned on by sucking on the mouthpiece or by sound or movement); an increasing number (especially on larger models) are manual (turned on by pressing a button on the side or end of the battery) as shown in photo above and here (a Joye 510 battery).  4. And the mouthpiece (containing the cartridge) goes in your...(wait for it!) mouth.J Oh, there usually also is an LED indicator light at the end, simulating the lit end of an analog and indicating whether the battery is on or off. Often there is a choice of LED colors, e.g., blue, red, orange, green, purple. The most typical colors of the e-cig itself are black (shown above, either matte or glossy), white (shown below, with white or other colored mouthpiece/cartridge/atomizer), and silver/chrome/platinum/stainless steel (in fact, all are stainless steel, although some are shinier than others, e.g., “titanium” is not made of titanium). There are even red, blue, green … and pink e-cigs. And some have pretty designs on them.  [ E-CIGS! … are a many colored thing…they’re in black-and-white…pink-and-green…like the early spring… Sorry about that! I can’t help bursting into song, when I talk about this.J] * Now the exception to the 4-component rule: the KR808D-1 shown below (as well as the Loong Totem and GreenCig) are 2-component devices: the battery plus a combined atomizer/cartridge/mouthpiece (the “cartomizer”). And notice the myriad-colored cartomizers in this photo. [Ooh! Colors! Don't worry, I won't sing again.]  Categories Most e-cigs fall into one of five categories (based primarily on length), examples of the first three of which are shown here. [This is a patchwork picture. All but the first model are courtesy of Nikko Daniels.]  1. The Penstyle (top of photo): the longest type (~150 mm), the same size as a…pen. [Isn’t it elegant looking! ß DaBoomVape bias perhaps.] Models include: DSE801 (what I use), RN4072, BE112, M201, and Janty Kissbox. 2. The Mini (the next four, working down from the top of the photo): mid-length, at 108-118 mm, a bit longer than a 100s analog. Models include: that silver model second from the top – DSE901 (the longest of this group and the very first e-cig, I believe) … RN4075 (not shown) … the black unit with a button – the Joye510 (currently the most popular among ECF members) ... M401 (the next one down, black with gold design, although such color and design are selectable) … and the white and tan one beneath that – the DSE108 (guess what length it is). 3. The Super-Mini (including the two shown at the bottom of the above photo): the smallest e-cigs, either:
 5. And then there’s the Hybrids (or Mods): Chinese atomizers and cartridges combined with western (e.g., U.S., U.K., Greece, Holland) battery packs, shown in the next two group pictures. Hybrids often are referred to as “Mods,” since many started out as homebrew modifications, addressing the biggest weakness of the electronic cigarettes – the battery. [I’m looking forward to another type of modification – automatic juice injection. Actually it has been done by ECF Modders, but nothing yet has been manufactured for sale to the non-mechanically/electrically inclined, i.e., people like me.] Check out this excellent article in e-cignews.com for pictures and descriptions of the various models of this category (including my beloved Prodigy), many of which also are shown here (from Zofryer’s collection):  As vast as his collection is, it doesn’t include two classics, Trog’s Screwdriver (the first manufactured mod/hybrid) and the popular Janty Stick:  More information on many of the models in these five categories can be found in the Model Specific Discussion sub-forum and in the Supporting Suppliers sub-forums. Evaluations E-cigarette hardware is evaluated – in numerous text and video reviews here on ECF and on YouTube – using six primary criteria (in addition to price and supplier reliability/customer service): 1. Vapor production – voluminous vapor (even more than analog smoke) … or wimpy wisps.  2. Flavor – harsh, burnt taste ... full flavor ... or bland.  3. Throat hit – that rush you get when inhaling (centered on a tickle or pinched feeling in the back of the throat). Similar to the first drag of an analog after an hour’s deprivation.  4. Draw – like sucking air through a straw (not necessarily such a long one) … or a thick milkshake.  5. Battery life – meaning (in one sense) how long the battery will last before dying completely ... or, of main concern, how long (or how many puffs) before recharging is required.  6. The switch (which turns the battery on and off) – either automatic (triggered by sucking on the mouthpiece, movement, or sound) or manual (a button you press on the side or end of the battery). Each is evaluated differently:
At this point, one or more models probably have struck your fancy. Why don't you "Search" for them here in ECF, to find out other members' experience with them. And experiment with the various options in the Advanced Search mode (e.g., search titles only or entire posts, specifying which forum(s) to search in, etc. And here's a tip: that Search feature only works on words of at least four characters ... yet so many terms in this world are two or three characters in length (frustrating!). So use that tiny "Google Custom Search" box at the very bottom (on the left) of most of the pages in ECF. [I was here six weeks before I noticed it.] It incorporates all Google search features, e.g., +, -, "exact phrase", etc. ECF is a big place; tools like this can help you find your way.Want to learn more about this wonderful world? Well tune in to our next episode: PART 3 Teaser In the next installment, we’ll be examining the software (i.e., the e-liquid) and the process of vaping:
o Nicotine Levels
o Analogous to pipe smokingSee you then! And remember, to post questions or comments – good, bad, or (heaven forbid) indifferent – please use this thread in the General Discussion forum. I look forward to interacting with you!
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09-15-2009, 04:09 AM
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| The Wonderful World of Vaping - Part 3: Software and Process Please do not post in this thread until all parts have been completed. That's to keep all six installments grouped together. However, I welcome your comments. To facilitate that, I've started this other thread in the General Discussion forum. Don't hesitate to pose questions and share your reactions, suggestions, and critique there. An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs Part 3 (of 6) Please see Part 1 (the post at the top of this thread) for an explanation of what this six-part series is all about, including a Table of Contents and relevant caveats. This rather long installment focuses on the software and the process of vaping. Just as a computer needs applications software and an operating system (i.e., a process for the microprocessor) to be more than just an expensive paperweight, so does the e-cig hardware (presented in Part 2) need its own kind of software and process for using it. THE SOFTWARE (i.e., the juice aka e-liquid) As important as the hardware is – and as enamored as many of us become with all the models (we’re like children clamoring to buy the latest and greatest toy) – the liquid that goes in it (sometimes pre-inserted in the cartridge) is what it’s all about. It’s analogous to the quality of the tobacco in an analog cigarette (ooh, I love saying analogous to analog). But, unlike analogs, the nicotine levels and flavor choices are vast. Nicotine levels
Flavors – Tobacco Do not expect an e-cig to taste and smell exactly the same as an analog cigarette (most of us feel it tastes much better), even a flavor that is named after a cigarette brand, such as those shown here.  Sometimes the names are deliberately misspelled or distorted (to avoid trademark lawsuits, I assume). Care to guess what cigarette brand these are alluding to?  Other tobacco flavors are Virginia, Flue-Cured, Cuban Cigar, French Pipe, Turkish Blend, or simply “Tobacco.”  In addition to the basic tobacco flavors are those enhanced with other flavoring, e.g., Menthol, 555 (nutty), Hilton (slightly sweet, mild spices), and RY4 (sweet with caramel and vanilla overtones).  I like to begin my vaping sessions with a basic tobacco flavor and end with Hilton or RY4. [BTW, I used to think that RY4 meant Rye (whiskey). No, RY stands for Ruyan, the originator of RY4 (and the first manufacturer of e-cigs).] Not everyone likes (or only likes) tobacco flavor. In fact… Intermission The following observation is provided for entertainment value only (and to provoke controversy, which is always funJ). Fledgling vapers are cautioned to avoid being guided by it (or to repeat it in the presence of other genders). Men are from Tobacco ... Women are from Sweet-Tooth  There are many exceptions, of course – which have no bearing on one’s masculinity [Gee, I hope not!] or femininity – but I do think that statement has statistical validity. [Some of the images used in this series took me a long time to track down, but the only challenge I had with the above photos was – not the Marlboro Man, that was a duh! – but choosing just one from among the thousands of photos of women eating candy.J] Be that as it may, here now are the “sweet-tooth” and other… Non-tobacco flavors Everything you can think of:
Most of the above tobacco and non-tobacco flavors are carried by many of the scores of suppliers participating in ECF (links for the least expensive of which will be included in Part 5). Supplier links for the more unique flavors (other than e-Cialis) have been provided above. The creator/supplier of perhaps the most esoteric (and rather expensive) e-liquid (e.g., Absinthe, Ylang Ylang, Roast Beef, etc.) is Decadent Vapours, based in the UK. [As I write this, they are temporarily closed for a few days.] Very shortly, their offerings also will be sold by Totally Wicked* (UK, US), only in 36 mg strength for some reason. * Bonus: Anything you order from TW will be imprinted with their trademark logo – a red devil's head – which some find appealing ... others, not so much. [I’m somewhere in between. I have used TW atomizers ... but not in the presence of corporate clients.]One other supplier you may want to check out at this stage is dietSMOKES.com, not because their prices are especially low (they’re not), but because they’re becoming something of a meta-supplier, offering e-liquids from several other suppliers. Also check out their “Below Zero” NON Nicotine Liquids, for the same reason. Evaluations E-liquid is evaluated – in numerous text and video reviews (especially recently, there has been a plethora of both) – using many of the same factors as hardware reviews, e.g., vapor production, flavor, and throat hit … all three of which are dependent on both the hardware and software. Such reviews and evaluations of juice, however, are necessarily more subjective. For example, my evaluation of banana-flavored juice (whether from supplier X or supplier Y) is … meh (a word I picked up from Gen Y members here on ECF). However, you may think it’s the cat’s pajamas (an expression from my parents’ generation). Check out the reviews, but take them with many grains of salt. See if you can identify the reviewers whose “taste” (both literal and figurative) is simpatico with yours. For example, I happen to be very comfortable with GrimmGreen’s and RitaLee76’s demeanor (and I think Chris and Sean are a hoot!). You might prefer MoobyGhost or Crash or SuperVaporBros, etc., etc. PG vs. VG The nicotine and flavoring are the ingredients that make our world go round, but what gets vaporized is the base liquid. In most cases, this is PG. But some people are allergic. You’ll know soon enough and it’s usually nothing serious. Symptoms vary, but can include: dry or sore throat, muscle cramps and aches, diarrhea, night sweats, and rash (usually not all at once or in the same person, thank goodness). If you experience any of these: 1. Consult with your doctor (I ain’t no MD), certainly if it is anything other than mild discomfort and/or it continues for several days. [Sounds like the back label of a bottle of over-the-counter meds, doesn’t it … but there is a good reason they do that, you know.]Even if you are not allergic to PG, you might prefer VG or those others. Conventional wisdom is that PG packs more flavor and throat hit, but VG generates more vapor. [When I mix my own juice, I use both.]
* I hope that ECF members across the pond will take note of (and appreciate) the fact that I overrode my American-English spell checker and let this British spelling stand.J
E-liquid 102 (i.e., second semester: independent research in the field) To learn more about the lavish land of ‘lectronic liquids, explore the E-Liquid Reviews, Video-Reviews, and Supporting Suppliers forums. [NOTE: Some suppliers specialize in e-liquid. However, virtually all suppliers (even those focusing primarily on hardware) also carry e-liquid. And I hope you realize that e-liquid purchased from a supplier of, for example, the JOYE line of models (510, 306, 306a) can be used in any e-cig.] THE PROCESS Most e-cigs look somewhat like analog cigarettes, but the process of using them corresponds more to pipe smoking (except we inhale). Pipe smokers use (and carefully store) various flavors of loose tobacco that they stuff in their pipes, light and relight the tobacco, use pipe cleaners to clean the pipe stems, and usually keep a variety of sizes and shapes of pipes: contrast Sherlock Holmes’ calabash pipe with Huck Finn’s corncob with a typical straight Billiard pipe.  To prepare:  2. Screw the atomizer into one of the charged batteries, as demonstrated here by RatInDaHat: 3. Insert the e-liquid, by:
here’s how to do it with a cartomizer: [NOTE: Dripping typically is not recommended when using an automatic battery, since it is unsealed. However, I have never had a problem with my 801 auto batteries … and I always drip. Proceed at your own risk … or try it out with an old battery you wouldn’t mind shorting out.]
* Topping off the cartridge by squirting a few drops on top of the filling (shown in the second video) is simple, but the juice doesn’t necessarily soak all the way through. So the inventive members of ECF have come up with other techniques, including:
And all this time, I thought texting while driving was dangerous. You can puff and inhale however you like, but the following is typical:  During each puff (automatic battery / manual battery):
When you notice a fading of the vapor or flavor (or a burnt taste):
[For me that’s a last resort. Others, more disciplined than I, clean their atomizers daily.] And if you are determined to really stretch out the life of your atomizer, explore the threads in the Experiment with equipmentsub-forum.This all sounds more complicated and cumbersome than it actually is.
 And I don’t even think about the puffing, it just evolved naturally. You probably will draw/suck longer during a puff on an e-cig than you do on your analog cigarette. For more on getting the most out of your e-cig, explore the Tips & Tricks forum ... and all threads in this New Members forum (especially the Stickies). Preview of Coming Attractions Parts 4 and 5 (to be posted separately) are both devoted to purchasing your first e-cig. Part 4: Purchasing Your First E-cig – The Little Guys
Warning: Style Shift Ahead The first three parts of this series have been filled with lots of pictures and occasional links. The subject matter of the next two parts calls for that to be reversed: many more links and occasional pictures. And the tone thus far has been rather whimsical. That will change. Don’t get me wrong – it won’t be somber, just more Joe Friday* in approach. * [For those whose hair has not yet turned gray, “Joe Friday” can be found under the heading, “Ancient History: 1950’s TV shows: Dragnet” ... or simply by Googling the phrase, “Just the facts, ma’am.”]Of course, my sui generis sense of humor may get the better of me and I might feel compulsed to season lightly with DaBoomVape “wit” (or perhaps just 50% of such). I'll be back! [imagine an Austrian accent] [And remember to post your questions and comments – the good, the bad, and the ugly – not here, but in this thread. The positive feedback lightens my soul; the constructive feedback can help improve the value of this series.]
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09-20-2009, 07:21 AM
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| The Wonderful World of Vaping (Part 4 of 6): Buying Your First E-Cig – The Little Guys An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs Part 4 (of 6) Please see Part 1 (the post at the top of this thread) for an explanation of what this six-part series is all about, including a Table of Contents and relevant caveats. [And notice the “style shift” warning at the end of the previous post (Part 3) … although as it turns out, I (unintentionally) “lied” about the cutback in photos. I did decide to include a lot of photos here – of e-cig models, but only one ha-ha picture. And I have included a song.] Part 4 (as well as the forthcoming Part 5) deals with… PURCHASING YOUR FIRST E-CIG Whatever model you choose, ensure that your initial order includes at least 2 atomizers, 2 batteries, 1 battery charger, and 10 cartridges (and/or 30 ml of e-liquid). [For a super-mini, make that at least 3 batteries.] Most “starter kits” include many of these. Supplement with replacement parts and additional cartridges and/or e-liquid as needed. Recommended are 3 atomizers, 3 batteries, 2 chargers (especially for super-minis), and additional e-liquid. Or, if you just want to “test the water” at the least possible cost (knowing that you quickly will need to order more to continue vaping), just order the most basic starter kit (with one of each of the above, but 5 prefilled cartridges). The color (of the device and of the LED) is your choice, of course, but I do have a suggestion: Consider not getting white with a tan cartridge/mouthpiece. In today’s anti-smoking world, many of us do not want our e-cig to look too much like an analog. Discount Coupon Codes DaBoomVape’s Rule: Never place an order for e-cig hardware or software (or anything else, actually), without first checking to see if there is an applicable discount coupon code (ongoing or time-limited) – for ECF members, or on any other basis. It appears that the “Electronic Cigarette Coupon Code Master List” hasn’t been updated since June (other than a couple appended additions by ECF members), so supplement that with Leaford’s Discount Codes and Affiliates and by checking the relevant Supporting Suppliers sub-forum. Typically these discounts range from 5% to 20% (or are for free shipping). Then just enter that code in the box provided on the supplier’s check-out screen. When in doubt, try the most common: ECF, e-cignews, ecigforum, or LEAFORD, sometimes adding the amount of discount, e.g., ECF5 or ecigforum10. A penny saved is a penny earned. – Poor Richard* (aka Ben Franklin) Proceed with a lesser degree of caution if contemplating purchasing ecigs that are mass marketed on the Internet or sold on Amazon.com and in mall kiosks, e.g., Smoking Everywhere and NJoy (not to be confused with JOYE). The model they sell is decent (described below in the Super-Minis section), but their prices are inflated (to pay for that advertising) and, I have heard, they provide little to no customer service. I’ve since modified what had been my negative opinion of these two companies. TANSTAAFL! [Look this one up yourself, not only to discover what words the acronym literally stands for, but to get exposed to some of the ramifications of the expression.] Here I capture only a small portion of its meaning with the very loose translation: You can't get blood from a stone. Those two companies have spent an awful lot of money putting ecigs in the face of millions of people. It is very likely their efforts are responsible for your first exposure to ecigs … and that eventually led you here. Also, because of their corporate size, they’re facing the brunt of the attacks by the FDA and ASH. They’ve been forced (and are more financially able) to be among the leaders in the defense of vaping. [I do not minimize the efforts of the Electronic Cigarette Association and activist members of ECF.] See also “Buyer Beware! New members please read.” Selecting the Right Device for You Before reading further, please re-read the caveats at the beginning of Part 1; they are especially applicable here. I have included here links to specific suppliers – not to help them out, but to help you out – and not because they are the only reliable ones (they are not), but because they seem to have the lowest prices (including shipping charges) and/or wide selections at the time I post this. [FYI: I have absolutely no connection with any supplier (other than as a satisfied customer where applicable) … and I certainly do not receive any kickback or commission (or free products).  ]The Quick and Dirty Approach I’m about to suggest that you conduct some further research and investigation and then ponder your choice, using parameters I’ll be providing. If that sounds just a bit too analytical and time-consuming (you are more the “executive” type), go buy a 510 – it’s the most popular model among ECF members today and one of the most respected. It is not that much longer than a 100s analog and it scores well on all the evaluation factors (other than puffs per battery charge). The odds are very good that you’ll be happy with the 510. [And if you actually are an executive, you’ll easily afford purchasing a different model later.  ]  Add in a PCC (Personal Charging Case) shown on the left, for carrying an extra atomizer and two cartridges and for charging your backup battery on the go), some extra prefilled cartridges and/or e-liquid, and you’re off and running. If you spend more time at a computer than away from it, you might choose to purchase a USB Passthrough (shown on the right) instead of the PCC. We’ll talk more about PCCs and passthroughs in Part 6. [FYI: Any personal bias I might have does not influence this recommendation; my own preferences lie elsewhere. The particular supplier in the links happens to have the lowest prices I’ve been able to find for the items specified and provides excellent service.] A More Thorough Approach What follows are some guidelines for deciding on the hardware and liquid (and supplier) that would provide you the most successful (and least expensive) entry into the world of vaping. After (or during) reading Parts 4 and 5: explore the links in the Great Info for new members! thread, research the device(s) and liquids you are considering, converse with other vapers, and… STOP THE PRESSES: This just in...… and view instructional and review videos (strongly recommended), including the following two. [Introductory note to these two videos: Just as e-cigs come in all shapes, sizes, and styles … so do the people who vape them. Be assured that some vapers dress quite conservatively (and some, i.e., yours truly, dress sloppily) and have dogs or cats as pets. Goth attire or myna birds are optional.  ]And for a two-part overview (by another of my mentors) of some of the very best models: [Don’t pass up that second Leaford video, thinking you just want “the best.” Remember what we learned from Scottes’ post: there is no “best” (for everyone). And that second video includes his recommended model for first-time users.] Leaford’s ranking doesn’t speak for every vaper, but he clearly describes each model’s pros and cons and explains his rationale, enabling you to do your own ranking. [Comparing Leaford’s feelings about vapor production with Scottes’ is interesting: Leaford is gaga for vapor; whereas vapor leaves Scottes … lukewarm. I suspect that many vapers fall somewhere between those two poles; I know I do.] And take a look at the primary devices* used by ECF members. Although I’m not really a lemming person (following the madding crowd), this is a pretty e-cig-savvy “crowd” here. It’s safe to say that the most-used devices must have something going for them (although that “something” may not be right for you and such a poll necessarily shortchanges the virtues of the newest devices). * This industry and subculture changes rapidly, e.g., look at the results of a similar poll from just a few months ago. You may want to refer to the fairly comprehensive list of non-hybrid models at VapeAtron (to which I was recently steered by Jim Davis). It can help you wade through the alphabet-numeric soup of DSE’s, JOYE’s, KR’s, M’s, Njoy’s (not to be confused with Joye’s), RN’s, and virtually every 3-digit number from 103 to 901 … and their aliases. [My head still spins with all this stuff.] Steeped in all that information (or as much of it as you can absorb), step back and reflect on what is most important to you in a first e-cig (and on your budget). [And remember what Scottes learned.] Then consider these suggestions (presented in order of e-cig size, not quality rating). [Unless stated otherwise, all models have automatic switch batteries and unexposed atomizers. Most models are available in black or white (sometimes the cartridge is only available in tan). Generally, the more popular a model is, the more color options there will be. Colors of the models shown in the pictures used here are arbitrary, unless clarified otherwise. Pictures are not to scale.] Specific Recommendations and Supplier Links Based on Your Priorities – The Little Guys 1. If you want to start with an e-cig as close as possible to the size and shape of an analog and has surprisingly good vapor, flavor and throat hit for something so small (and are willing to cope with frequent battery recharging), consider one of Super-Minis. [BTW, “super” doesn’t mean “wonderful” (not that they aren’t), but “very much so.” The “minis” are smaller than a penstyle (sometimes called the classic, and, therefore, the benchmark). The super-minis are much smaller than the penstyle]:
* The 306 currently (9/19/09) is out of stock at that linked low-priced supplier. It is in stock at these higher-priced suppliers in the US and UK.
2. If you want an e-cig widely (although not universally) regarded as having better performance and providing a few more puffs per battery charge than the above and are the most popular (and you are comfortable with it being somewhat longer thanan analog), consider one of Minis. The first two models discussed have unexposed wick atomizers; the atomizers for the last two are exposed wick. [Batteries for most of the models are primarily automatic switch. However, during the past few months manual switch batteries have been introduced for the first three models presented here (most recently for the M401). They’ve only gained a firm foothold, however, with the 501 (it is now difficult to find an automatic 501 battery). The effectiveness and popularity of the manual 401 battery remains to be seen. The manual 901 (and the manual 801 to be discussed in our next installment) have had problems. Many dealers seem to be offering the manual 901 battery as a spare part, but not including it in the starting kit.]
 3. If you want the simplest, easiest to use e-cig (which is the same size as a Mini) and more puffs per battery charge (tie with the Penstyle, but short of a Hybrid), consider the KR808D-1 (or the more expensive GreenCig mentioned below): the 2-part e-cig, cartomizer concept. You can just plug the disposable cartomizer into the battery and start vaping. No juice dripping or cart filling required (although you may want to do so to save money – those cartomizers can get expensive). It delivers strong flavor and throat hit and adequate vapor. [NOTE: My personal experience is different from most; I found the flavor harsh and the mouthpiece/cart/atomizer unpleasantly hot.] BTW, I’ve read that KR808D-1 cartomizers fit the DSE901 batteries (and the 901 adapters for hybrids such as the Prodigy and Janty Stick). As we saw in Part 2, myriad color choices are available for the KR808D-1. [Uh oh! You know what happened the last time I talked about these colors! Don’t worry; limit of one song per installment. (There should be an emoticon for “Whew!”)] Recently a PCC, shown below, has been made available. [To me, it looks like a homebrew mod based on one of the ubiquitous $5 metal carrying cases (available for virtually all non-hybrid models).] 
 At this point, you may have become excited about one or more models and are chafing at the bit to place an order. But wait! The “best” e-cigs (that is, my two favorites ) – as well as many other really good models – are yet to come! Specific recommendations – with the same fact-filled style [But maybe, just maybe, I’ll sing again.  ] … and useful, but humorless photos – to be continued in…Part 5 – Purchasing Your First E-cig – Big Guys and Juice
4. One of the Penstyles
How to decide – Tobacco or sweet-tooth / SamplersSame bat-time, same bat-channel!* * No more hand-holding of young whippersnappers – look this one up for yourself. [I will give you a link to my intended common-usage meaning of ‘whippersnapper’; the official dictionary definition is derogatory and not intended.] And remember to post your questions and comments – the good, the bad, and the better informed than I – not here, but in this thread. The positive feedback brightens my day; the constructive feedback nudges me to do better in the remaining installments.]
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10-01-2009, 04:20 AM
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| The Wonderful World of Vaping (Part 5 of 6) Please do not post in this thread until all parts have been completed. That's to keep all six installments grouped together. However, I welcome your comments. Please use either this thread here in the New Members’ forum or this thread in the General Discussion forum. Don't hesitate to pose questions and share your reactions, suggestions, and critique there. I look forward to interacting with you! An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs Part 5 (of 6) Please see Part 1 (the post at the top of this thread) for an explanation of what this six-part series is all about, including a Table of Contents and relevant caveats. This installment picks up where we left off in Part 4 (Purchasing Your First E-cig) and focuses on the big guys … and the juice. Specific Recommendations and Supplier Links Based on Your Priorities THE BIG GUYS Shown in this photo (left to right) are: one of the larger Hybrids, a Penstyle, an E-Cigar, and one of the smaller Hybrids … compared to a Mini and a Super-Mini (and a quarter).  4. If you want more puffs per battery charge than the minis or super-minis, very smooth draw, wonderful vapor, good flavor, and mellow throat hit (which I often like, especially for long lingering vaping sessions like with my morning coffee or evening cocktail, or for my non-nicotine vaping) – and you don’t mind a long e-cig (50% longer than a 100s analog) – consider the Penstyle. I think it is elegant. It looks kind of like an analog cigarette in an old-fashioned cigarette holder, such as used by FDR and Holly Golightly (although hers is much longer) … and by my avatar.  The cartridges are large and can hold a lot of juice. Their atomizers are unexposed; in fact, they’re at the bottom of long tubes. With two exceptions, these all have automatic batteries. 
 5. If you are a cigar or pipe smoker, the obvious choices are e-cigars and e-pipes … and there are some. However, there seem to be a dwindling number of suppliers. I get the sense that the heyday of e-cigars and e-pipes may have come and gone (supplanted by the hybrids probably). [If that statement provokes protests to the contrary … good. The more spirited discussion about various model choices, the better. It’s what makes our subculture and ECF so vibrant.] The models include:
 However, since you are used to smoking something that is much larger and doesn’t look anything like a cigarette – and if you are willing to be somewhat flexible –  I urge you to consider this final category… 6. If you would like to puff for a long time between battery charges and/or want maximum vapor and throat hit…  …(and don’t care if it doesn’t look like a cigarette … and are willing and able to invest more money upfront), then one of the Hybrids is for you. These all have a manual switch. Hybrids can cost 2-4 times as much as a standard e-cig, but (the battery housing) can last for years, rather than weeks or months. Shown below (clockwise starting from the upper left) are the Copper, AdapteveR, Bulli, and Zimoshi (which is not to scale).  There are two basic types:
 * But don’t ignore the newer models (many of which are more streamlined), which are coming out almost every week. Some of these look really neat, in a Jetsons’ kind of way. Shown below are the VP-1 and VP-2 on top, the Super-T on the lower left, and the Silver Bullet on the lower right.  This already referenced and highly recommended article shows pictures and describes in detail virtually all of the current hybrids – including links to the relevant supplier (there’s usually only one per model). Please read nothing into my not going into more detail about the hybrids. That article has done it for me. I will add here a suggestion: If you are considering a hybrid, think about the position of the manual switch button: visualize how you would hold the device … and what finger you would use to press the button. This certainly would be different for the devices with the button on the side of the battery pack near the atomizer vs. at or near the end of the battery pack. There is no right or wrong to this, but a matter of personal preference and comfort. Hot off the press: Since I began this opus, at least two new models (not included in that article) have been released: the Protégé (younger brother to the Prodigy) on the left … and, on the right, the relatively inexpensive Chuck (and its brother, the Little Chuck):  Actually, it’s difficult to show a representative photo of the Chucks, since they are handmade to order, with myriad color and design choices. Shown below are just two of those custom-ordered designs:  A few months ago, someone titled an ECF post (or had in his signature): “Sooner or later you’ll vape a Screwdriver” (or words to that effect). If we broaden that to include the Hybrids category (which Trog’s Screwdriver launched), I’m tempted to agree. There are just too many limitations, hassles, and disappointments with most traditional e-cigs. [‘traditional’ – That’s a strange word to use for a five year old phenomenon.] I still love my penstyle (a lot), but when the chips are down, I can always count on my Prodigy to deliver. Once you get over your infatuation with the teeny tiny “it looks just like a cigarette!” … you’ll see the light. IM(not so H)O.THE JUICE  You definitely will also need to order e-liquid (otherwise you’ll have nothing to vape). Oh, I suppose, you can just order additional prefilled cartridges. However, that’s not terribly cost effective and the flavor choices (and perhaps nicotine levels) are much more limited. Do get some blank carts to fill with the juice, at least until you’re comfortable with dripping or dipping. Speaking of cost-effective, my personal benchmark price for e-liquid is 50¢ per ml, plus free shipping. Very few suppliers meet that benchmark (and, below, I tell you about the ones that do or come very close). Most far exceed or even double that price, or more. China Juice or Made in the USA/UK Juice? The vast majority of e-liquid is manufactured in China by just three companies (mainly Dekang Biotechnology) and sold by Chinese suppliers or exported to the west. I order China-manufactured juice from the least expensive US or China supplier who carries the flavors I like. [NOTE: Chinese suppliers better that price benchmark, but then their shipping costs are very high. Good for large orders.]  Most (but not all) of the western-produced e-liquid [‘western’ = North America and Europe, not cowboys] seems to be simply LorAnn flavoring mixed with base PG or VG (and China-produced nicotine) and sold at what I regard to be highly inflated prices. [A couple of those suppliers even supplement their offerings by reselling LorAnn flavorings, at a substantial markup.]  The best of that group combine more than one LorAnn flavor to create unique and tasty concoctions, e.g., Walrus's Mad Scientist's Laboratory. [EDIT: kristin just reminded me that Drew at NHaler also mixes delicious (and herbal) combinations. There was a part of my brain, which knew that, just not the part that was writing.  ] A very few (e.g., ECOPure and Decadent Vapours) start from scratch and create something truly special, which I would be unable to do with my own limited DIY supplies (and talent). Those may be worth the prices charged.  I am very impressed with what the Chinese manufacturers have created. For example, how do they extract both subtly different tobacco flavors and controlled amounts of nicotine from tobacco leaves? I doubt any DIYer can replicate that. [And what the heck are the ingredients in RY4 (or RY1, 2, or 3 for that matter)?] But 0mg Butter Rum e-liquid? Nah! Even I can do that. [And I have; it’s really inexpensive and easy … and it tastes good! (All credit to LorAnn.) More on this in the DIY section of Part 6.]  Your First Juice Order For convenience, you probably will want to include juice with the starter kit order from your hardware supplier, who almost certainly carries at least a few flavors at various nicotine levels. I suggest that you order at least 30 ml (perhaps three 10 ml bottles, different flavors and nicotine levels), which takes us to… Choosing Initial Nicotine Level  Very likely, the five prefilled cartridges included in your starter kit will be at varying strengths: None (0mg), Low (6-8mg), Medium (11-12mg), High (18mg), and, perhaps, Extra High (24mg). [Those mg levels vary.] You might want to start vaping the second strongest cartridge. If it seems too strong, try out the next one down, then one more down, if needed … or if it’s just not packing enough punch (e.g., you were a pretty heavy smoker), try the strongest cartridge. If that is 18mg and it’s still not strong enough, you’ll probably need the Extra High level.  And see if you enjoy the 0mg cartridge, e.g., for the “pacifier” vaping mentioned in Part 3.  But I’ve recommended that you also include e-liquid in your initial order. So order at least three bottles (10 ml or smaller) at different nicotine levels. Use the loose guidelines provided in Part 3 to set the level for one of those bottles … and order one bottle a notch lower and one a notch higher. Base the nicotine level of you next juice order (probably in larger sizes) on your experience with those carts and e-liquids.  The right nicotine level for you will also depend on how often you vape. If you just vape five minutes at a time at the same frequency as your smoke breaks, your body will crave higher nicotine levels than if you vape more frequently and/or for longer periods.  And remember, some devices (especially the hybrids) pack more punch (i.e., throat hit) than others. That’s because they vaporize and deliver more liquid (and therefore more nicotine) per puff … and/or at higher temperatures. Many vapers who move up to 5-6V hybrids, for example, say they need to cut back on their nicotine levels. Choosing Initial Flavor(s) The abundance of flavor choices you discovered in Part 3 is a two-edged sword: how do you choose?  The flavor of the carts may be preset by the supplier (Marlboro or “Tobacco” is very common) or you may be able to choose a Menthol alternative. When selecting flavors for those three 10 ml bottles that I recommended, consider the following suggestions:
Samplers Some of the suppliers who offer samplers are:
 It may be even more cost-effective to order some 10 ml sizes (not usually considered “sample” size) from one of the inexpensive suppliers: 
 I’ve ordered e-liquid from myriad vendors (including in China), basically looking for the cheapest prices (including shipping costs) and who has a sale running. The Supporting Suppliers page of ECF shows the banners and links to many of the vendors (hardware and software). There also are other good suppliers (often with the best prices) who have such narrow profit margins that they probably can’t afford the fee to be listed there, many of whom can be found in the E Cigarette Suppliers Forum. Overall, I have been very impressed with the reliability and remarkable personalized service of the suppliers in this primarily cottage industry.  And don’t forget the sacred Discount Coupon Code! Waste not, want not. – Poor Richard’s Almanac again.* * Boy, there sure was a lot of good stuff in that Almanac. And we Yankee Doodles really needed it back in the 18th century (and today). I mean, what kind of advice did we get from Great Britain? – Penny wise and pound foolish. What the heck does that mean? – It’s more important to loose weight than to invest wisely? – No wonder Richard was poor (and skinny).Next: The Final Episode Part 6 – During the Weeks and Months to Come
It’s all been: s’wonderful … s’marvelous … that you should care for vaping! [I didn’t say I was unable to sing. ]See ya real soon!* * Derivation: M…I…C (See ya real soon!)…K…E…Y (Why? Because we like you!)…M…O…U…S…E! – Mickey Mouse Club, circa 1957. [That does not count as a song! Think of it as a spelling bee.] And remember to post your questions and comments – the good, the bad, and the “please, please, please, no more singing!” – not here, but in this thread. The positive feedback will alleviate my sadness. The constructive feedback … well, I’ve learned to put up with it.
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10-26-2009, 02:24 PM
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| Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Florida
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| The Wonderful World of Vaping (Part 6 of 6) An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs Part 6 (of 6) Please see Part 1 (the post at the top of this thread) for an explanation of what this six-part series is all about, including a Table of Contents and relevant caveats. This final installment – by far the longest – wraps up the series with suggestions for: During the Weeks and Months to Come Commentary assumes that you have purchased and begun using your first electronic cigarette. But your foray into this wonderful world doesn’t end there.
Supplies & Accessories Over time (or perhaps immediately, if you choose), you will need or may want to consider purchasing: 1. Filling/Dripping/Dipping Supplies and Tools
The availability of various colors can help distinguish different flavors. It is now also available with 3 ml capacity (at twice the price).
 This last one may seem strange, but many vapers of exposed wick atomizer devices prefer to dip their atomizer in the juice, rather than using a prefilled cartridge or dripping. The little pools in the contact lens case work well for this. [Guys – it’s also available in black.] Or you could just pick up smaller cases like these from your local pharmacy. Same comment about multiple color choices as for the e-Dobit.  2. Replacement Parts
 While you are at it, you may want to try a battery in a different color, e.g., a red 510 … or a coppery gold one from Totally Wicked:  Gold-e-cig, it’s the one, the one that I love to touch; a wicked touch... …I love gold; I love only gold; only gold. I love gold! [Well, you knew there would be at least one song. ]…or different length, as in the M40X series.  And recently more and more models with automatic batteries also are offering manual batteries. [NOTE: The previous photos were somewhat to scale. The following photos are not, other than within a product line, e.g., KR, DSE, or Joye/Titan.]  [Caution: I don’t think that some of these Johnny-come-lately manual batts are that well implemented. For example, the button on the 801 (and, I believe, 901) manuals are flimsier than the 510 buttons. Of three KR808D-1 manuals I’ve tried, one was ineffective, the other two are fine. And all them them are more recessed then the 510 button, a recession I don't happen to like.] Some now offer longer batteries (longer in millimeters and in time required before recharge). The Titan (510) mega manual battery and KR808D-1 mega battery (auto or manual) are examples. [BTW, notice that the mAh (milliamp hours) of the mega 510 is the same as the regular KR808D-1.]  If you like, you can get the KR808D-1 batteries covered with logos:  3. A PCC (Personal Charging Case) to carry your e-cig and cartridges … and to charge the battery when you are out and about. More and more of these have become available during recent months, to the point that most (of the popular) minis and super-minis have them. The typical PCC can recharge a battery about four times before needing to be recharged itself. You saw the PCCs for the blu*, Volcano, and GreenCig in Parts 4 and 5. Here are some of the others: * [NOTE: If you already have a blu PCC (“Blu Pack”), read the important message at the top of the blu homepage.]
 The Titan branded 510 PCC is reviewed (and described in detail) here by igetcha:
 Nicco Daniels reviews and demonstrates the 901 PCC here:
 EcigReview demonstrates and evaluates the Vapor King branded KR808D-1 PCC here:
 4. A USB Passthrough for use when sitting at the computer or with a portable power pack (PPP?) … or in the car, if you purchase a car adapter. PTs are available for all of the popular models, such as the ones shown here, as well as for the RN4081. Most can be purchased from Heaven Gifts, Health Cabin, and/or the suppliers who sell the respective model of e-cig. All but the M401 are manual switch. KR808D-1 passthroughs are either manual or auto. [NOTE: GreenCig carts only work with the auto passthrough or battery.]  Most that are sold are not true passthroughs (i.e., directly powering the atomizer from the computer), but instead provide a constant charge to the inline battery. That doesn’t mean they’re bad, just not as powerful (and often not as durable). Two exceptions are the UK-built E-Cig City line of passthroughs for the 510, 801, 901, and RN4081 (RN4081 and 510 examples shown on left) … and the very sturdy and powerful (but much more expensive) US-built Puresmoker passthrough (on the right) for the 510, 801, or 901. [NOTE: I’ve read that KR808D-1 cartomizers will also work with 901 passthroughs, and batteries ... and (I believe) vice versa.]  5. Storage Containers What you will need in a storage container will depend, of course, on the extent of your supply of hardware and software. At the beginning, the box that contained your starter kit may be sufficient, although that tiny 510 box looks a bit cramped. 
 6. Carrying Cases If you don’t have a PCC, you can carry one or two back-up batteries, an atomizer, and a couple cartridges in this $5 metal case (you can spend more if you like), available in virtually any color and with molded inserts for most of the popular models: 
 [For some reason, I feel ashamed whenever I contemplate using such an item (not the flashdrive case) for a purpose quite different from its intended use. No reason to. Unlike Swine Flu vaccine, there are plenty available for those who need them for medical needs. But there it is.]7. E-liquid – I hope your reaction to this one is: Duh! [If you went with a cartomizer model or a kit that included many cartridges in different flavors, I’ll forgive you for not including e-liquid in your first order. But if you want to continue to stay in my good graces, you must now start ordering juice! Otherwise, you’re throwing money away and depriving yourself of a much greater range of flavor and quality choices.]Of course you will have an ongoing need for juice. Use this need to try out different flavors and suppliers and, perhaps, nicotine levels. I provided you with lots of leads in Parts 3 and 5. Since then, I’ve discovered a couple additional very inexpensive juice suppliers in the U.S.:
* What the heck are September Wolves and Shaddock? My guess is that September Wolves is the same as “Stepwolves” –whatever that is – as it is spelled (misspelled?) at myFreedomSmokes. And Shaddock? Where are Meshach and Abednego? † FYI: Kellbell has described RY3 as “a milder version of RY4.” GrimmGreen has been quoted as describing the taste of RY1 and RY2 as “sweaty socks.” Maybe because the screen name of another supplier (GoodProphets) of RY2 (and 3 and 4) is dirt2suck. Now I ask you: Why would an e-liquid supplier (and a good one at that) call himself “dirt to suck”? All of Cignot’s PG juice is 26mg strength. However, their VG (in most of the same flavors) is either 26mg or 0mg. This would work out great for me: 20 ml of 26mg PG + 20 ml of 0mg VG = 40 ml of 13mg PG/VG. (I prefer the PG/VG combo and that extra 2mg would provide a nice added kick.) And it could work for anyone vaping at any level less than 26mg (although that would require higher level math).
But the really exciting (and cost-saving) offering is his “doublers”: 4 oz. (i.e., 120 ml) bottles of flavored 0mg juice (PG, VG, and PG+VG) for only $12/bottle, intended to be used to cut his high-nicotine (30mg or 45mg) e-liquid of the same flavor. For someone like me who vapes at around 11mg strength, these are really quadruplers: 1 oz. at 45mg + 3 oz. at 0mg = 4 oz. at 11.25mg (plus an extra 1 oz. of 0mg juice for “pacifier” vaping). Whoa! I’ll let you do the arithmetic for how cheap that nets out to be. [And those who vape at 0mg (as I sometimes do) make out like bandits: 10¢/ml.] A couple caveats: With one or two exceptions, his flavor choices are limited to LorAnn’s flavoring mixed with PG and/or VG, so you could create those doublers yourself (but at those prices – and my laziness – I’m not going to bother). For example, the 4 oz. bottle of tasty Butter Rum juice I ordered tastes like what I had mixed a couple months ago (but never stirred my stumps to do so again). The exception is his Tobacco (and Tobacco Menthol) juice. Geoff claims that it tastes delicious (and is uniquely created), but the vapor production is disappointing. I found it (i.e., Tobacco; I haven’t tried Tobacco Menthol) to be just the opposite. The vapor is fine, but I found the flavor to be barely detectable (of course, I like TAB, which some find to be too intense). [My first impression was that it tasted like unflavored PG and VG. Since none of the bottles were labeled (which he claims is unprecedented), I wondered whether he simply forgot to put in the tobacco flavoring; and he was reluctant to correct the matter. But after vaping it in my Prodigy, I think I notice a very subtle flavor.]DIY You may want to “do it yourself,” i.e., mix your own e-liquid – to save money and/or to create your own flavors. This can be as simple as:
 As a newbie, I found RitaLee76’s user-friendly videos very helpful, including this one – it can ease you into DIY. My reaction was: Gee, even I can do that!* *[As I read that sentence I realize that it might be misinterpreted. Take my word for it (as a professional trainer by day), making something look easy … is not easy!]Scratch Cook Since then, I have dabbled with mixing from scratch: combining inexpensive unflavored PG and VG – with or without high-test unflavored nicotine juice – to create a base…  … to which I add flavorings from LorAnn (most of the non-tobacco flavors) and/or Perfumer’s Apprentice (e.g., Tobacco Absolute, Ethyl Maltol, Menthol, Vanillin, Clove). Nicotine Juice Sources for high-test unflavored nicotine juice include:
To concoct a tobacco flavored juice, see this thread for what to do with ingredients like Tobacco Absolute or Ethyl Maltol. My own attempts at creating a tobacco juice have had dismal results. But Scubabatdan may have saved the day! In his Tobacco Flavors in the U.S. thread, he has just made us aware of a great source for tobacco flavors: Seedman.com (scroll down that page to the “TOP NOTE FLAVORS”). Quoting Scubabatdan (with some liberties taken in formatting): COMMERCIAL CIGARETTE tastes like Marlboro, CAPTAIN BLACK TYPE has a darker richer taste, ENGLISH TOBACCO FLAVOR has a spicy flavor…I was surprised that I really liked the HONEY.All are inexpensive: $5 for a 2 ounce (60 ml) bottle – and that’s the flavoring folks, not the juice. One bottle can yield as much as 20 times that amount of flavored e-liquid – 1,200 ml! [NOTE: That is 40 oz.] Tools of the Trade You’ll need some plastic bottles (small and large), graduated cylinders or beakers, pipettes, droppers, etc., all of which can be purchased from U.S. Plastics, although I got my smaller quantity of pipettes from Amazon.com (along with a book order to qualify for free shipping). [But remember Juicy Liquid as a good source for pipettes.] All of those supplies (other than the nicotine juice and the more unusual flavorings described below) are quite inexpensive. DIY Starter Kits … and Flavorings Or, instead of buying these supplies piecemeal, you might want a starter kit, as offered by:
 If I had to do it over again, I would have started with this kit (instead of buying containers and supplies hither and thither). Most people get the Ultimate or Premium kits, but, since I’m cheap, I’d go with that $30 Silver kit. NOTE: In addition to reselling LorAnn flavorings, they also carry a variety of tobacco flavorings, which therefore may not be quite as elusive as it used to be.
 I believe that Liquidxpress’ greatest strength, however, is their broad selection of flavorings, many of which do not come out of a LorAnn’s bottle. For example, they are the source of the Kung Pao chicken flavoring I commented on in previous installments … as well as many tobacco flavors. They’re fairly pricey, but if you want your vapor to taste like Atomic Fireball or Dragon Fruit, I don’t know where else to send you.Add to the list of sources of unusual flavorings: Decadent Vapours, now sold by Totally Wicked in 10 ml bottles for $8 (remember that’s flavoring, not the mixed juice; so a very good price). I don’t see their absinthe or roast beef, but they do have parma violet, passion fruit, and roast chicken (among others). This just in! – Kent C has just alerted me to what appears to be a fantastic source for flavorings, based in Italy: Flavorart. I've not even had a chance to read all of Kent's extensive comments about them, but any DIYer should explore their vast assortment, including some very unusual flavors. Although primarily food flavorers, they do have a special section devoted to vaping. [I invite Kent to post his commentary in this thread [after this guide is completed] ... and in the DIY forum. To Learn More about DIY ECF’s leading mixicologist/brewmeister is Walrus, whose concoctions recently have been made available for purchase. He’s been very generous here in ECF in sharing his expertise and some of his formulae. His videos can inspire one to probe the depths of DIY. [My favorite, for entertainment value, is: Enter The Laboratory to learn the secrets of the “Mad Vaper.” The DIY e-liquid sub-forum is the place to explore all of this further. Onward and Upward After whatever period of time, you probably will want to branch out (or up) to other devices. There is no perfect e-cig (at least yet). You probably have found that there are many things you like about your first model, but some things you don’t.
So I’ve given the cartomizers a second try and many of them taste better than I remember (I have heard they’ve been improved). And those GreenCig carts are quite special; Leaford is right about their vapor, but I think he understates their flavor and throat hit, especially when filled with good juice and on a passthrough (which has to be automatic switch for these carts).What to Choose We covered the various models and their pros and cons in Parts 4 and 5. You may want to go back and browse through those installments to see what catches your eye … now. And there have been some new models introduced. [I told you this industry changes weekly.] Here are the ones I know of:
 As you will see from Nicco Daniels’ high-energy video review (and accompanying ECF thread) of the e-cig and its PCC, he is very enthusiastic about this product. [FYI: Nicco is a very effective pitchman and, I believe, he did receive his kit gratis. However, I am assured that he is not in the employ of Revolver.] You’ll find counterpoints to his positive review here and here … and here for MoobyGhost’s video review demonstrating less impressive results. 
 There are many color choices: black, blue, pink, red, stainless, white, and white with stripes. Both auto and manual batteries are available. And notice that Sidesho carts are larger than M401.  [For some reason, all starter kits are shown as out of stock at the moment, even though all the parts and accessories can be ordered (not necessarily in every color). I imagine that if you contact kaeo773, he can help you out.] Read a lot more about the Sidesho in the Modern Vapor supporting suppliers forum, including Bandit’s in-depth review (written; I haven’t found a video review yet).
 It looks just like vaprlife’s VP1, takes the same battery, is the same price (well, within one dollar, I guess for the branding), and even has that same ring of LED lights.  Here is Figurehead’s two-part video review:
 It is discussed in this thread … and MoobyGhost, who named the device, reviews it in this video: [To clarify, the models shown in this installment are not necessarily better than those previously mentioned, just in addition to.] So, expand your horizons with another, different type of personal vaporizer (the term ‘e-cig’ just doesn’t fit some models). And you may want to become a Modder. The Marvelous and Mysterious Milieu of Modding Modders reinvent the e-cig by tweaking or redesigning the appearance, cartridge, atomizer, battery, or its access to e-liquid. Being electro-mechanically challenged, I just visit the Emerald City on occasion. Those who inhabit this realm share with each other the fascinating (and sometimes strange) devices and techniques they’ve developed (often using materials readily available from RadioShack, Hobby Lobby, or even Lipton). The following are just a few examples of each category of mod: Cosmetic Mods To some (including yours truly), almost as important as an e-cig’s performance is its appearance (of the device itself and its casing). This sub-forum explores these “cosmetic” modifications.
– Freehand designs using Pilot gold or silver metallic markers.  – Using nail art supplies from SallyBeauty … or Konad Stamping Nail Art – Using the materials and tutorials of Friendly Plastics and techniques like this... ...to create permanent design coverings like this Mill Lane Studio pen design.  – Using the $80 Etch-O-Matic to permanently engrave logos and text even on rounded metal surfaces like an e-cig battery. 
 Porphy provided a link to colored rhinestones. [No, I am not going to sing Rhinestone Cowboy.] 
Cartridge Mods For those who refuse to drip, modifying the cartridge is almost a necessity. The simplest (but important) cartridge mod is restuffing the cart with a different, more effective wicking material, such as:
 A few months back, marcus49ath came up with the spring mod to “get good atomizer contact and to warm up the most of the fiber filling to get more vapor” … and then we never heard from him again.*  * Where have you gone, marcus forty nine? Our forum turns its lonely eyes to you. Woo, woo, woo. [Well, this is a long installment; it needed another song. And since I refused to do Rhinestone Cowboy (even I wouldn’t stoop so low), Simon & Garfunkel it is.] Atomizer Mods
 …which, for awhile at least, was available for purchase and is reviewed here by igetcha:
It seems as if Carlos has been working into the wee hours of the morning on his creation(s). He needs to get some sleep.Battery Mods The battery is perhaps the greatest weakness of a cigarette-shaped PV. The increasing popularity of the hybrids bears witness. But it all started here … by modders.
 Many of her students have done their own tweaking of the NicoStick, e.g., cybervex’s Bartleby discussed earlier and this version created and demonstrated by ecigro:
 [The photos are warp1900’s; the attempt at an explanation is mine.]
 Here’s igetcha’s video review of it: Such battery modding led to the Screwdriver and the hybrids that have followed. When your battery mod is complete, make sure to promote it dramatically, as shown here by tonarinonsx: The Next Giant Leap From my perspective, modding’s current cutting edge (and next breakthrough) is juice injection. For example:
 …which he demonstrates here: [NOTE: Even the electro-mechanically challenged (i.e., I) can see the influence of the NicoStick on mods like these.]
 The Ultimate Cosmetic/Cartridge/Atomizer/Battery/Juice Injection Mod All of these mods – cosmetic, cartridge, atomizer, battery, and juice injection – point to vaping’s future. It’s exciting to look forward to … but I’m already having a great time in the present! Campaigning Vaping is not only a hand-to-mouth, inhalation experience … it is also a community – a community under siege. As former smokers, we are all well aware of the intense antismoking attitudes held by a great many people – attitudes and an intensity that I believe go beyond concern about the real health risks of analogs and other tobacco use. The most virulent anti-smokers are just that: expressing hatred not only of the second-hand consequences of the behavior, but of the behavior itself and of the people who engage in it, even in private. We could speculate about their deeper motivations (and I have), but primarily we need to be fully aware that it exists … and take appropriate action. But why do we vapers need be concerned about that. Most of us no longer smoke analogs. Because that attitude, especially in its most hostile manifestations, spills over (unfairly) onto vaping. The anti-vaping charge has been led, at the federal government level, by the FDA; and “public interest” groups such as ASH (Action on Smoking and Health) accelerate it with vituperative pronouncements and lobbying. We need to defend ourselves and our right to vape. And we don’t have a wealthy industry with decades of lobbying expertise and connections to support us. Thus the Electronic Cigarette Association (ECA), Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association (CASAA), and the other associations and forums within the Campaigning section of ECF. They are sources of important information about this issue and they (and the Electronic Cigarette Forum itself) need your participation and support.  [Personal note: I have not yet become actively involved in any of this campaigning, due partly to the time taken up by this opus of mine and also to my temperament (thinking about such matters gets me upset). I just feel grateful that others are involved. If at all possible, please become one of them. For what it’s worth, here’s my two cents on what seems to me to be a reasonable position to take: I respect your right not to be exposed to the vapor from my PV or to have your children be enticed to vape or smoke; please respect my right to vape (as long as it doesn’t interfere with your rights). OK?] Conclusion I hope this guide has been and will continue to be a valuable resource for you. Some readers have told me that they’ve gobbled this series down in one or two bites. Although that is flattering, it is not recommended. My intent has been to provide a summary of and convenient access to the wealth of resources and information about vaping that is available, especially here on ECF. To the extent that this intent was made manifest, there is far too much to absorb in just a couple sittings. I urge you to go back and watch all the videos and explore the myriad links that have been included, certainly for the topics that have caught your fancy. Use this guide as a gateway to this wonderful world, not as a final resting place. Acknowledgments As should have become obvious to you, although the WWV Guide (as I abbreviate it) bears the DaBoomVape imprimatur, I claim credit primarily as the collector of the work of hundreds of others here on ECF (and elsewhere). [Well, also as a singer of songs. ] Many of those unwitting contributors have been acknowledged directly throughout this tome and some indirectly via linkage. There is one set of individuals, however, who has not yet been brought to your attention and are, perhaps, most deserving: the Moderators.This thread and the posts therein have gone well beyond standard forum limitations and protocols (both systemic and human). From the very first post, the Moderators have blazed the trail for this work. Jim Davis, for example, arranged for photo restrictions to be lifted and for the thread to be stickied. Smokey Joe has shepherded the project, given it his blessing, and waved his magic wand to break through system barriers. Most of all, Sun Vaporizer and lordmage have invested dozens of hours editing, rescuing, and html coding what appears here. They have my deepest appreciation! And I invite you to share in my heartfelt thanks to all of those hundreds of contributors and well-wishers! The End of the Beginning [Warning: Mélange of mixed metaphors ahead.] There is so much more that I or others at ECF could tell you about vaping, but this series has gone on quite long enough … and it is time to push you fledglings out of the nest. If you have not already done so, make your first (or second) purchase, sample and savor the myriad varieties of flavor, converse with others, experiment ... and enjoy. And have fun with it. Dive in; the water is … wonderful! Welcome to vaping! You've taken your first step into a larger world. (Obi-Wan Kenobi) Don DaBoomVape
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A big thanks to you, Don, this is a superlative effort! And sorry to everyone who had to wait so long for part 6 - some crazy server issues were preventing it from being uploaded. If you'd like to comment, or simply say "Thanks!" please go here: The Wonderful World of Vaping: COMMENTS SJ
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[As I write this, I am vaping RY2. GrimmGreen may be right about RY1, but RY2 reminds me of TAB, which I like very much.]
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