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CrazyTerrie11 · 11-04-2009, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkim65

Exactly. Pick a kit and go on your merry way. Vaping is not that complicated. Just seems to be with people that may be indecisive to begin with...

Give her a break dude...it IS complicated in the beginning when your overloaded with info that doesnt make sense. Or did you forget that. Or were you just "gifted" and knew everything when you chose your first vape? This is the beginners place and they need to be able to ask lots and lots of questions. That what its here for..duh. Who gives a poop if shes indecisive. Who are you to judge? Lighten up or go judge the "know it alls" in the other forums. People like you discourage others just by your "do it and just shut up" attitude.

Deschain · 11-04-2009, 04:11 AM

It's a fair point...I've noticed a patern when new folks post here looking for advice, it usually goes something like this...

Noob: Hi, I'm new, what should I buy?

Me: You need a 510 brother...it's da bomb...don't forget to do the straw mod, it rocks!

Another poster: Don't listen to him, you need a battery mod, dripping FTW!

Yet Another poster: Those guys are CRAZY...go with a 801 my friend, it's the biz - PTB rulezzzz!

And yet another poster: You losers, this guy needs to get with the hip-cat cartomizer posse...

Noob: Erm, what?

etc

No e-cigs were injured during this dramatization...

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CrazyTerrie11 · 11-04-2009, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschain

It's a fair point...I've noticed a patern when new folks post here looking for advice, it usually goes something like this...

Noob: Hi, I'm new, what should I buy?

Me: You need a 510 brother...it's da bomb...don't forget to do the straw mod, it rocks!

Another poster: Don't listen to him, you need a battery mod, dripping FTW!

Yet Another poster: Those guys are CRAZY...go with a 801 my friend, it's the biz - PTB rulezzzz!

And yet another poster: You losers, this guy needs to get with the hip-cat cartomizer posse...

Noob: Erm, what?

etc

No e-cigs were injured during this dramatization...

.

EXACTLY!!! Sounds like you've been through that phase huh?

Deschain · 11-04-2009, 04:28 AM

I think I'm part of the problem to be honest...

I believe the folks here are genuinely helpfull, genuinely trying to offer the best advice and pass on the benefit of their own experiences...it probably just gets a bit overwhelming for folks who aren't used to the jargon and all the abbreviations.

.

dubnluvn · 11-04-2009, 04:36 AM

I agree, it can be overwhelming, especially with the unusually high concentration of information on the subject. It took me a good week from the time I first googled 'e cig'. In the end I wanted something that would give me a good experience from a noob perspective but not hold me back in terms of options later on.

For me it was a 510 with manual batteries and a pcc, so I got two kits, one for me and one for my wife. I loved it immediately and quit analogs on the spot. My wife, however didn't and it wasn't until two weeks later when I got her an M401 (or EVO) with automatic batteries (PCC's aren't available for the 401). She loves that thing and she uses the 510 for her flavors.

Personally I don't think anyone can go wrong with a 510. I'm willing to bet that more first time e-cig users are more satisfied with their 510 than any other model. Basically thats my no-brainer choice for a noob that doesn't know where to start.

As far as juice, I like the ECOpure juices (Gold 30mg) I think they are the most neutral taste and aroma around. Don't expect any 'tobacco' juice to taste like tobacco. I'm not huge on flavors, but there are a few that I do like. I'd suggest a few 6ml samples from Nhaler, very high quality juices, if you want flavors. I like Drew's Dr. Pepper and his Sleepy Time Lung Juice, but thats just me.

I'd also like to congratulate you on your decision to try vaping. This forum has been immensely helpful to me, both technically and as a support system for making the switch. You'll be very happy when you get your kit.

Happy Vaping!!

-Dub

cassavetes · 11-04-2009, 05:07 AM

Find a model you're interested in and do a search on YouTube. There are hundreds of instructional videos that will show you just how simple it is.

Kent C · 11-04-2009, 05:31 AM

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Robert · 11-04-2009, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by always sunnny

I have no idea what to do with all this that is thrown at me.

Anyone willing to try and make me want this thing again?

No- For some it just too much. It's alot of info to decipher, and you have to want to learn.

Keep reading- buy a 510 then ask a logical question

guess I should read ahead first- basicly what Kent said.

optsmk · 11-04-2009, 06:50 AM

E-cigs are not complicated at all. Reading all the info here is what makes it complicated. One person will order a 510 and when he gets it it does not work. Then he orders an 801 and it works fine. Then he ends up posting some thread saying that the 510 is a piece of garbage and tells everyone not to order it. Then he says the 801 is the greatest e-cig ever made because it works for him.

Another guy buys an 801 and it does not work. Then he buys a 510 and it works great. Then he slams the 801 and says how wonderful it is.

And so on and so on.

The bottom line is that they are all good. the problem is that all manufacturers make some defects and if you are the unlucky person to get one, then you think that model sucks.

My recommendation to any noob is to just pick one. Pick anyone, it does not matter which one, just pick one. Also order some juice as well, or you will be sorry that the carts that came with the kit dint last as long as you think it will.

My only other recommendation is to buy from a reputable dealer so if you do get a bad one, they will gladly replace it without any problems. I have ordered from many of the vendors that support this site and have not had a problem with any of them. It seems like all of them are probably good to order from. Don't order from some advertisement you heard on tv, radio, or magazine. It seems like those companies have the worst customer service.

Lastly, when you get your e-cig, practice smoking with it. Smoking an e-cig is a little different than an analog cig. You will get used to it and you will enjoy it. The taste of the juice will also be a little odd at first, but eventually you will love it.

Eric in AK · 11-04-2009, 07:07 AM

I kind of took it as Always Sunny (the OP) finding a new way to say, "Hi, I'm a newb, give me some clear guidance." Every day there are a bunch of new people who basically ask the same questions: "Where do I start? How do I do this? Please advise me..." This was, I thought, kind of a clever take on it.

It's pretty much the way it was with me, I think. The OP came face to face with the information overload that results from lots of vapers of varying levels of experience and differing personal tastes all trying to offer input.... not surprising that someone might think this is all too much, too confusing, too esoteric. I know I was kind of apprehensive when I started reading all the threads about modifications, atomizers failing or clogging or losing effectiveness.

The best thing I did when I first joined was to read DonDaBoomVape's illustrated guide. It really clarified things and made much of what I later read in other threads a bit more understandable. I personally feel that it might help if they made you check a box that says you've read that entire thread before being allowed to post! There'd be a lot fewer questions of the type that say, "I've basically read none of the information here. Tell me what to buy and where to buy it." Nothing wrong, I guess, with that kind of question, since many of us really do enjoy sharing what we've learned, and the question never seems to get old.

11-04-2009, 04:11 AM	#32
Deschain Super Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: England Posts: 657	It's a fair point...I've noticed a patern when new folks post here looking for advice, it usually goes something like this... Noob: Hi, I'm new, what should I buy? Me: You need a 510 brother...it's da bomb...don't forget to do the straw mod, it rocks! Another poster: Don't listen to him, you need a battery mod, dripping FTW! Yet Another poster: Those guys are CRAZY...go with a 801 my friend, it's the biz - PTB rulezzzz! And yet another poster: You losers, this guy needs to get with the hip-cat cartomizer posse... Noob: Erm, what? etc No e-cigs were injured during this dramatization... . __________________

11-04-2009, 04:28 AM	#34
Deschain Super Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: England Posts: 657	I think I'm part of the problem to be honest... I believe the folks here are genuinely helpfull, genuinely trying to offer the best advice and pass on the benefit of their own experiences...it probably just gets a bit overwhelming for folks who aren't used to the jargon and all the abbreviations. . __________________

11-04-2009, 04:36 AM	#35
dubnluvn Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ventura, Ca Posts: 103	I agree, it can be overwhelming, especially with the unusually high concentration of information on the subject. It took me a good week from the time I first googled 'e cig'. In the end I wanted something that would give me a good experience from a noob perspective but not hold me back in terms of options later on. For me it was a 510 with manual batteries and a pcc, so I got two kits, one for me and one for my wife. I loved it immediately and quit analogs on the spot. My wife, however didn't and it wasn't until two weeks later when I got her an M401 (or EVO) with automatic batteries (PCC's aren't available for the 401). She loves that thing and she uses the 510 for her flavors. Personally I don't think anyone can go wrong with a 510. I'm willing to bet that more first time e-cig users are more satisfied with their 510 than any other model. Basically thats my no-brainer choice for a noob that doesn't know where to start. As far as juice, I like the ECOpure juices (Gold 30mg) I think they are the most neutral taste and aroma around. Don't expect any 'tobacco' juice to taste like tobacco. I'm not huge on flavors, but there are a few that I do like. I'd suggest a few 6ml samples from Nhaler, very high quality juices, if you want flavors. I like Drew's Dr. Pepper and his Sleepy Time Lung Juice, but thats just me. I'd also like to congratulate you on your decision to try vaping. This forum has been immensely helpful to me, both technically and as a support system for making the switch. You'll be very happy when you get your kit. Happy Vaping!! -Dub __________________ Vape Star - Personal Electronic Vaporizers

11-04-2009, 05:07 AM	#36
cassavetes Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 547	Find a model you're interested in and do a search on YouTube. There are hundreds of instructional videos that will show you just how simple it is. __________________ "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth." - Bill Hicks

11-04-2009, 05:31 AM	#37
Kent C Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NW Ohio US Posts: 2,638	.............. __________________ Last edited by Kent C; 11-04-2009 at 07:50 AM. Reason: said what I wanted in other post....

11-04-2009, 06:50 AM	#39
optsmk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pleasanton, Ca. Posts: 162	E-cigs are not complicated at all. Reading all the info here is what makes it complicated. One person will order a 510 and when he gets it it does not work. Then he orders an 801 and it works fine. Then he ends up posting some thread saying that the 510 is a piece of garbage and tells everyone not to order it. Then he says the 801 is the greatest e-cig ever made because it works for him. Another guy buys an 801 and it does not work. Then he buys a 510 and it works great. Then he slams the 801 and says how wonderful it is. And so on and so on. The bottom line is that they are all good. the problem is that all manufacturers make some defects and if you are the unlucky person to get one, then you think that model sucks. My recommendation to any noob is to just pick one. Pick anyone, it does not matter which one, just pick one. Also order some juice as well, or you will be sorry that the carts that came with the kit dint last as long as you think it will. My only other recommendation is to buy from a reputable dealer so if you do get a bad one, they will gladly replace it without any problems. I have ordered from many of the vendors that support this site and have not had a problem with any of them. It seems like all of them are probably good to order from. Don't order from some advertisement you heard on tv, radio, or magazine. It seems like those companies have the worst customer service. Lastly, when you get your e-cig, practice smoking with it. Smoking an e-cig is a little different than an analog cig. You will get used to it and you will enjoy it. The taste of the juice will also be a little odd at first, but eventually you will love it.

11-04-2009, 07:07 AM	#40
Eric in AK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 179	I kind of took it as Always Sunny (the OP) finding a new way to say, "Hi, I'm a newb, give me some clear guidance." Every day there are a bunch of new people who basically ask the same questions: "Where do I start? How do I do this? Please advise me..." This was, I thought, kind of a clever take on it. It's pretty much the way it was with me, I think. The OP came face to face with the information overload that results from lots of vapers of varying levels of experience and differing personal tastes all trying to offer input.... not surprising that someone might think this is all too much, too confusing, too esoteric. I know I was kind of apprehensive when I started reading all the threads about modifications, atomizers failing or clogging or losing effectiveness. The best thing I did when I first joined was to read DonDaBoomVape's illustrated guide. It really clarified things and made much of what I later read in other threads a bit more understandable. I personally feel that it might help if they made you check a box that says you've read that entire thread before being allowed to post! There'd be a lot fewer questions of the type that say, "I've basically read none of the information here. Tell me what to buy and where to buy it." Nothing wrong, I guess, with that kind of question, since many of us really do enjoy sharing what we've learned, and the question never seems to get old.

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