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    Quote Originally Posted by BardicDruid View Post
    The thing is if you stick with a reputable maker like Dekang, you're getting a more controlled liquid than a lot of US manufacturers. I've been using Dekang for 4 years now and have had no problems, the problem I have with US makers is they won't let you see their lab, the Chinese do: Chinese E-liquid Manufacturing Facilities - YouTube
    If you actually do the research, about 80% of all ecig supplies are manufactured in China, that's where it was invented and all started. A lot of us that started 4 or more years ago and most of the rest of the world have no problem using chinese goods.
    What he said. ^

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    Diagnosis of COPD is what led me to ecig and then to this forum. Thought I would be one of those die hard still smoking to the last breath people because giving up nicotine was proving to be too damn hard. I vap as much as I smoked, I inhale totally and love a throat hit and will smoke my ecig in a way to give me a huge throat hit. Recently had a cat scan and lungs are in better shape, I am not short of breath anymore and my 35 yr old cough is gone!


    Quote Originally Posted by imanidiot View Post
    I am kind of astonished at the response. What a wonderful, supportive community this must be.
    Here is the skinny: I am 63, have smoked cigarettes for 40 years, quit once majorly for 2+ plus years, had a personal tragedy and decided I didn't care anymore and went back to smoking. Had asthma all this time. Lung function obviously deteriorating over last year, was diagnosed with COPD in June, stopping using tobacco. But miss it. Nic Patch helped, have "graduated" as it were. Don't wake up craving a smoke, but as the day wears on, need something. Therefore, Ecigs. But, at this point, am afraid to inhale. I take Spiriva for COPD, Quvar amd Albuterol for asthma. I know none of you are physicians, but, in your experience, is inhaling an Ecig likely to .... me

    up? Sorry to sound crude, but I seek advice from my own kind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agavehound View Post
    There area couple vape shops in Denver if you care to see some available choices in person. I went to a store called Vaporleaf and the staff was very helpful and they have a good selection of kits and e-liquids but their hours are limited. There is a list of B&M stores (Brick and Mortor) here on ECF.
    Thank you. I will check out Vaporleaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanidiot View Post
    i am rather astonished at the outpouring of response.

    Would anyone care to recommend a source than other than my current one? (V2 cigs). I only went there because someone recommenced it.

    Many thanks in advance.

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    Hello Iman () and welcome to the forum.

    First of all, nobody here can tell for sure what vaping does to COPD. Period. Not even your doc--vaping is a new phenomenon so I recommend using caution (and common sense).

    If you can vape without inhaling, like you would smoke a cigar or a pipe, that would be ideal. You don't want anything in our lungs that might further irritate them.

    If you can't do it, try to choose eliquids that are not flavored at all, or at least flavored very lightly, and contain mostly PG, as PG has been studied for quite some time and proven to be safe for inhalation. Avoid dark, sweet juices and any juices that contain a lot of additives and colorings and known lung irritants like cinnamon, for example. Food flavorings and colorings, albeit safe for human consumption, have not been evaluated for safety in inhalation.

    Vapor is not just "water vapor"--it's a myth. If you want to see some studies about e-cigarette vapor and what it contains, plese check this compilation from CASAA:

    Lab Reports: ecigarettes

    Your V2 kit is kr808 D-1 threaded so I suggest you get some kr808 blank cartomizers or clearomizers and learn how to fill them yourself with the eliquid of your choosing. Kr808D-1 blank cartomizers are widely available. Also, get a bottle of unflavored nicotine base in your preferred strength and try it--it's not so bad. I vape unflavored often. You can also use that base to thin out other flavored juices to dilute those colorings and sweeteners and flavorings.

    Good luck and happy vaping!
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    I don't know what you are talking about, honestly Choose eliquids. Blank cartomizers. Unflavored nicotine. I really appreciate your response, but I don't know how to go about what you are suggesting,

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    First welcome to ECF.

    Congrats on quitting the cigarettes---stick with it.

    I am 66 yrs old and have had COPD for several years, but it didn't really bother me much until a couple of years ago and my shortness of breath was getting noticeably worse. Now I smoked for over 50 years and quitting just did not seem possible to me---until I tried vaping---been over a year now. I quit cigarettes the same day I started vaping and have not had any desire for a cigarette since then.

    I can now smell and taste things. My shortness of breath is better (but will never go away--til I die). Actually have gained 10 ibs (have always been thin)
    Is inhaling with vaping okay? I doubt it, but is a heck of a lot better than tobacco and it hasn't made my COPD any worse (YMMV)

    Again congrats--only you will know for sure if the inhaling is okay for you as far as making you fell worse. Stick with it.

    Good Luck!!

    Edited to add: I DIY my juices so I know what's in them
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    check out halocigs.com

    they make two systems, the G6 cartridge system like Blue ecigs you find everywhere which come in prefilled or empty which you fill and a clear tank system which most people here use. called the Triton
    the clear tank and refillable catridges allow you to buy your own liquids.
    The G6 has a blank tank you can refill but the wick and coil is nonreplaceable so you spend $4 on a tank you can only refill a few times. so i didnt recommend that.
    You can use the same large capacity triton battery for both the G6 and Triton so that is another reason to use the Triton.

    they also sell some pretty awesome juices, Tribeca, Torque56 (i suggest starting with Torque as it is a rather light flavor but not so light you cant feel it or taste it, plus it mixes very well with Halo's SubZero super menthol juice to make your own custom menthol level), and several premixed spectacular menthol flavors along with other types.
    SubZero is like smoking the strongest menthol cig you could imagine, super duper icy cool.

    they are more expensive than pretty much everyone else and use a proprietary system but for a first time starter kit, you cant go wrong.
    spend the money on their Triton or G6 starter kit (get the triton) and buy a few 5ml bottles of various juices and see what you like and dont like.
    Plus unlike many other systems they are not confusing tank systems. its a tank a wick and a battery, thats it. and you buy it direct from them so there isnt much to be confused about. Triton or G6 thats it...
    the other guys may make superior performing products but they have way too many parts and way too many places to buy them from and frankly its a big confusing mess.
    i still dont know what to get from those other guys. lol. thats why i keep using Halo.

    you might even message someone like bernie and see if you could buy some of his liquids in small amounts to see if you can handle what he uses since he suffers from COPD also.
    if he is willing to do that.

    I do not know what mixure level Halo uses but it may be 50/50 given the vapor (smoke) production their juices give off. (the more VG the more cloud that is produced)

    if you are confused by halo let me know and i can "walk you through" some options.

    i would start with this. and choose the 650Mah battery option.
    1) Jet Black | Triton Tank System Starter Kit | Halo Cigs
    2) then get the Torque56 in 5ml 18mg nicotine strength (you can try 24mg if you were a heavy smoker and need a high level nic fix)
    3) if you enjoy it but get tired of charging the battery and want a single battery for all day get this battery in 900 or 1300mah
    (two 650mah batteries in the kit and you being the only one to use it will easily last you all day and probably all night if all you do is smoke every few hours or once an hour)

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanidiot View Post
    I don't know what you are talking about, honestly Choose eliquids. Blank cartomizers. Unflavored nicotine. I really appreciate your response, but I don't know how to go about what you are suggesting,
    Kr808 LR blank cartomizers:

    http://www.litecigusa.net/KR808d_1_P...rblankcart.htm

    Kr808 clearomizers:

    Kanger 808D-1T4 Clearomizer

    Unflavored nicotine base--vapable as is or mixed with other ejuices:

    Flavorless Liquid

    Another source--choose your nic strength, PG/VD ratio, bottle size:

    Unflavored - $5.20 : deejStuff eLiquid, The Apocalypse can wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katya View Post

    Your V2 kit is kr808 D-1 threaded so I suggest you get some kr808 blank cartomizers or clearomizers and learn how to fill them yourself with the eliquid of your choosing. Kr808D-1 blank cartomizers are widely available. Also, get a bottle of unflavored nicotine base in your preferred strength and try it--it's not so bad. I vape unflavored often. You can also use that base to thin out other flavored juices to dilute those colorings and sweeteners and flavorings.

    Good luck and happy vaping!

    good catch Katya, i guess i forgot he had some sort of system in place already.

    so yeah forego the halo if you wish, but do check out their liquids or unflavored base liquid, and just upgrade your K808d-1 system
    you already have invested money so why spend a ton more on something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V_lestat View Post
    other studies have shown that propylene glycol, the source of the e-cigarettes’ visible vapor,
    from the way I understood the different ingredients, Propylene glycol is the element that causes TH and vegetable glycerine what causes the the vapor clouds....?

    did I misunderstand that?
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    Keep up the good vape!
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