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    So I did 8 wraps and I got better results than 12 wraps...

    Better vapor production but still no where near Rip Trippers video xp

    Have to mess around a bit more.

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    Yeah i saturated it and seen that it created vapor but when Rip did it his firing produced more, before the assembly

    Im 70% satisfied with the vapor production, flavor is awesome tho.
    I feel like im so close! lol

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    crap

    i just ordered 32. i should have gotten 30 or even 28 to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterjuice View Post
    I use 28GA Kanthal A1 btw. 12 wraps 1.8 ohms. Does that sound correct? with a 5/64 drill bit
    Hopefully someone else can chime in on that one - I only use 30 gauge kanthal right now cuz I'm working on a regulated device.

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    I use 30 gauge microcoil with 8 wraps on 1/16 drill bit. I ended up at 1.8 ohms with boiled cotton wick. Using plastic cup upside down. Works great. Was my first pt coil rebuild too.
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    I coiled mine with 7 wraps of 30 gauge on cottons nipped pretty short. NR-R-NR setup. Reads 1.2ohm. Flavor's plenty but less heat. Might go 1.0ohm

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    I used 28g with 8 wraps and it works good!
    Flavors good, vapor is good.

    Im still going to try to make 12 wraps work to see the difference but right now im relaxing vaping on 8wraps

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterjuice View Post
    I used 28g with 8 wraps and it works good!
    Flavors good, vapor is good.

    Im still going to try to make 12 wraps work to see the difference but right now im relaxing vaping on 8wraps
    Nice to see that you are finding what you are looking for! You can use 32 gauge on a micro coil Protank rebuild no problem as well and it heats up a little faster. You get a teen-tiny coil, but it vapes like a dream (with one tiny flavor wick on top). I do 6 wraps on a 1/16 drill bit with boiled organic cotton (turns out around 1.9 Ohms). I'm more of a flavor chaser than a cloud chaser, but the build does work. Also have tried 30 gauge on a 5/64 but find that the wrap touches the top post too easily, so I moved down to the smaller drill bit with great success. Remember, if you are looking for clouds, a real RBA is the way to go.

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    I tried micro coils with cotton a couple of times with little sucsess then I found a thread on vertical micro coils and I love them! 16/15 wrap coils on a 1/16 drill bit about 1.9 - 2.0 ohms and boiled organic cotton packed around the outside of the coils. No wicks to burn up. the air flows right up from the hole in the bottom, through the middle of the coil

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMFire3605 View Post
    Vapor production also goes hand in hand with air flow, and there is not much you can do to get more air flow without an airflow controller or modifying you Zmax's air flow channels, or the base of the protank and center pin of the head on a Protank2. Another thing, why oh why do people use 28ga or larger wire in a Kanger style head when using a regulated device, that is a another factor of your vapor production, 28ga at that many wraps takes to dang long to heat up, thus why you are having to crank it up to 11.5watts. Step the wire thickness down to 30ga maximum, plus you also have to remember, look at what device Rip Trippers usually has his atomizing devices attached to, a Phazed DNA20, also have to remember he has most his atomizer attachements modified for maximum output for high power output and doing lung hits most times during his demonstrations. Wanting to fog up a room with a Protank design, find a Protank1 someone doesn't want anymore, its airflow is far better than the Protank2 which is more restricted, and it can be done because I have done it, but only with a Protank1 using a 0.7ohm nano-coil head with a cotton wick on a SmokTech Natural and SmokTech Magneto, both mechanicals, using MNKE 18650s with a resetable fuse on the battery, but still I am not getting anywhere near the clouds Rip Trippers is doing.

    A properly built 30ga micro or nano coil in a protank, should by my experience produce triple the flavor of a stock head, twice the throat hit, and twice the vapor of a stock head in an Evod, T3, UniTank, or Protank2, Davide, or other such device using a Kanger style BCC head, Protank1 and possibly a Tatroe or Davide tank might reach the Protank1 with four times the flavor, twice the throat hit, and triple the vapor, but as I said above to achieve that you are needing a sub-ohm micro or nano coil on a Mechanical, going that route, cloud chasing, better start doing your research into RDAs, battery chemistry and safety, ohms law, and sub-ohm safety, you'll not get massive vapor out of a Glassomizer/Clearomizer class bottom tank system, they are not really designed to be fog machines.
    Outstanding post IM. On six months, fast learner and background in tech industry. This rips on every point. I've been testing every kind of device available and building a road map of resistance results. The Protank is a persnickety device requiring very precise builds to get the best out of it. No doubt Trippers did his homework…but those not yet immersed in juice don't realize it's theater. I applaud him because he is building excitement among vapers for the contact coil. And, properly built, that is the way through most problems on clearo's.

    I picked up your thank you to beatitude for the batt tables. Good find on your threads. If there's an expanded list, I'd love to know, as there have been a great many newcomers to the high drain/high amp world. I'm mostly standardized on AW and CGR18650CH but seldom need to dwell much above 8W to get both the flavor and vapor I need, nor low Ω either on drips. Why so much searching on this forum for the edges of the envelope, I don't know, when so many of the peaks are right in the middle.

    Have a great day and good luck!

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