Greetings and questions from an old smoker
Greetings. I am Cee64E and I am a -complete- beginner at this. I'm a grandfather and I have been a two-pack-a-day smoker for most of my life. I need to stop. My grandkids are just too much fun for me to be killing myself smoking. Vaping looks like it could be an alternative. I can get one of my "eens" (the other being caffeine) and feed my hand-to-mouth habit without all the bad stuff my Marlboros give me.
I've tried a couple of cheap e-cigs, the kind they sell at gas stations that you throw away and was disappointed with the experience. I've gotten -dozens- of "free starter kit" ads via email (Thanks, Google ) that are obvious rip-offs when you look at the fine print. And due to the huge number of vendors and makers out there willing to put up their own "reviews" site I'm more than a little hesitant to just go buy something.
A friend let me try his Tesla variable power unit. I was impressed with the volume of vapor and how quickly it responded compared to the ten dollar cheapos I had tried before (that big, honking battery at work). There is a local retailer that can get them and other brands but the starting cost of around 80 bucks is putting me off a bit. They have eGo (?) units that have slightly lower cost and not nearly the battery, or the features, of the Tesla.
So I guess my question is, is a beefy unit like the Tesla a worthwhile purchase? I'd rather not buy something that I'm just going to end up replacing later and I have no experience with the eGo, or any other serious vape unit. How does the eGo stack up? What are some other brands that I should consider?
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Congratulations for deciding to get off cigarettes! I started with ego twists and they worked fine, kept me from smoking, I have upgraded several times but with the money I save by not smoking I am still way ahead.
If you start with a Tesla, you will actually SAVE money because you aren't going through the rigamarole of buying a bunch of cheaper stuff that doesn't work as well, THEN going to an APV like the Tesla which will give you a much better vape. This is just my opinion of course, so you can take it for what it's worth. You can get an eGo, but you'll need at least 2 to rotate through your day, and a few tanks etc. So while the Tesla is 80 bucks, you must consider that you will need more than one eGo to get you through the day (for most of us anyway). The power output is better on an APV, you can really dial in your vape, and use rechargeable, replaceable batteries. You are on the right track for sure. Definitely support your local vape shop if you can, and come here to ECF for lots of support and advice. You CAN quit smoking, and ecigs are a great way to do that! Good luck to you!
ALSO, if you are looking at other APV's (advanced personal vaporizers) then check out the iTaste MVP 2.0. It is a box mod with an internal battery, variable voltage, variable wattage, ohms checker, etc. It is cheaper than the Tesla and you don't have to buy any batteries or a charger. I have one and it is my go-to mod. Hope this helps! Check out this link: Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 Starter Kit - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes
Tesla is good. I'm not sure what your retailer is selling you for "around 80 bucks." I got my Tesla here, so you can compare prices: - The Tesla - Chrome | MODS | iVAPE
Keep in mind you have to add on two batteries and the price of a decent charger to have a working Tesla setup.
eGo - specifically eGo Twist - isn't a bad place to start either. But a Twist is a lot more limited compared to a Tesla. You do get variable voltage. But you don't get the display, ohm status of your device, remaining battery voltage display, better (spring loaded center pin) connector, better short and low resistance protection that you get on the Tesla. The other thing that bugs some people about Twists - when the internal battery dies you have to toss the device. The internal battery isn't replaceable on a Twist.
Then again, a Tesla isn't exactly a "tiny" device. I do like mine, but I never take it out. I'm not shy or anything, but a Tesla is just "too much" as an out and about device. In that vein, you may want something in addition to a Tesla that's more portable friendly. Just something to consider.
Welcome! Research is the best place to start in order to avoid first time buyer regrets.
I smoked 48 years and this works. You have to be willing to learn and try a few different types of equip when you get started. Most start with a cigalike which is not the greatest. Battery life is almost nil and the prefilled cartos are expensive for a person who is 2+ pad. There are several types of delivery devices some like top coils for a warmer vape and some like bottom coils for a cooler vape. It takes a bit of trial and error but is well worth the journey. Watch youtube videos as you get started. Pbusdrdo and grim green are good ones. One of the most recommended kits here is this one from MVS. You will still have to find juices to suit you which will usually be bought elsewhere. http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_S...bo_p/vvs-c.htm
There are several models that provide significant features, such as VW (variable watt), a higher amp switch (which can be important) and batteries that are less expensive but last twice as long as small battery models. One is the Vamo. The Vamo costs $33 and with the charger and 2 sets of good AW batteries, will run you about $65. I would get the stainless steel model:
For the ego's, Joye twist and Vision spinner are dependable batteries that have been around a while.
Originally Posted by Cee64E
I'm unfamiliar with the tesla, but it looks similar to the popular vamo. If you don't mind a larger device, they are worth it.
The itaste SVD is one to consider. Everyone that has one, likes it and says they're well made. The batteries are replaceable for about $10.
The SVD and nitecore i2 battery charger from fasttech and batteries from orbtronic will cost about $75. This doesn't include a device for nicotine liquid, but there's lots of choices on those for $10 or less.
Downside is that fasttech can take up to two months.
Wow, talk about fast responses.
Okay. The Tesla kit I am looking at is offered over at Vape Dudes for 80 bucks. The friend that let me try his says they have the same thing at a local shop, though possibly a bit more. I prefer to shop local for everything I buy just to support local businesses so if I can get it locally, even if it costs a little more, I do. But then I frequent a local drive-in movie, too, just to keep the place from closing and losing the last one in the area. Consequence of being old.
The Tesla is certainly a big unit. Impressive, even. I don't go out much except to work and the grocery so carting it around isn't really an issue to me. I'll probably find some way to clip it to my belt along with all the other stuff I cart around during the day. I'm a custom cabinet maker so there's a fair amount of stuff on or in my belt anyway. One more thing won't hurt and it kinda reminds me of a Hooka. I grew up in the 70s. Hookas are cool.
Getting off cigarettes is kind of a must do for me. My lungs still work pretty good, but I'm noticing that I get winded a lot faster than I used to when I was a kid. I'm kind of a big fella, always have been, and in my line of work marshmallows don't last long putting kitchen cabinets up on a wall with one hand and screwing them down with the other. Heart issues run through my family like a river and I'd just as soon not drown in them either. It's something I have been meaning to do for a while, but nicotine alternatives have so far been unsatisfying. I'm a junkie for my "eens". Vaping looks to be a good way to satisfy my habit and do a lot less harm to my body. I have the body of a god and I'd like to keep it that way. (Okay, it's Buddha, but still...)
Thanks again for all the info. I have much to research and learn, but I am undaunted by it. (I have a daunt puller in my tool box. )
I can confirm this after smoking for 46 years, with had no intention of quitting, despite the chronic bronchitis, chest pains, and general lethargy that tobacco inflicted on me (or that I inflicted on myself, to be honest) ...
Originally Posted by klynnn
Vaping really really works, provides a far superior delivery system for nicotine, clearly without the health risks associated with smoking ...
And if you enjoy the gadgetry and tinkering as I do, you'll be drawn to the gear as much as the vaping experience, maybe more ...
Even if vaping gets regulated and taxed nearly to death, its far too late to suppress it, the knowledge base is out there, all over the web, and no overbearing government agency can ever overcome that ...
Here's hoping that the OP has many many more joyous years with the grandkids !
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