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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge Van Diesel View Post
    Not strictly true. Most (if not all) M401 models / brands will out perform a 510 in every aspect except throat hit (& even then they come damned close) The batteries on a 401 last around twice as long per charge & the atties have more longevity than the 510. Although the carts are bigger on the 510 they only tend to use half of the juice in them without modding & as the atty is a thirsty little beast it's liquid consumption is higher.
    I'm curious as to how any model can produce as much vapor as another model without consuming as much liquid. That seems to contradict the laws of physics, unless there is something I'm missing here.

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    More efficient atty I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge Van Diesel View Post
    More efficient atty I guess.
    The juice that is used is either vaporized, or it has leaked out or gone in your mouth. And if it has been vaporized, it would seem it would vaporize as much as it vaporizes, regardless of atomizer.

    I guess I just can't think of any way that a different atomizer could change the volume of vapor produced from a given volume of liquid. It seems to me that if you get more vapor, you're using more juice, but I could be wrong.

    I'd love to hear a reasonable explanation of how anything else is possible.
    I'm always willing to learn something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2 View Post
    The juice that is used is either vaporized, or it has leaked out or gone in your mouth. And if it has been vaporized, it would seem it would vaporize as much as it vaporizes, regardless of atomizer.

    I guess I just can't think of any way that a different atomizer could change the volume of vapor produced from a given volume of liquid. It seems to me that if you get more vapor, you're using more juice, but I could be wrong.

    I'd love to hear a reasonable explanation of how anything else is possible.
    I'm always willing to learn something new.
    I've heard the 510 burns hotter, maybe that has something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge Van Diesel View Post
    I've heard the 510 burns hotter, maybe that has something to do with it.
    Yeah, I believe that's why it uses more juice and produces more vapor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destx View Post
    anyone else? I would really like an e-cig that looks like a standard cig
    Actual Cig look and feel was my TOP concern as well. Thus I ended up going with an L88b model. It is sold at Blucig.com, volcanoecigs.com, and 3domecigs.com (freedom ePack); all interchangable with each other; exact same size as a 'King' Analog Cigarette.

    ModernVapor.com also sells the SideSho, which is the same as the L88b model, but with a longer battery and more personal customer service. Lots of sellers for the L88b and compatible models, so you end up with quite the selection of LED colors.

    However, the L88b model seems to be quite disliked amongst the serious vaporers, especially on this forum, so many L88b lovers stay quiet. The reason seems to be due to the limited vapor production, short battery life, and shipping/PCC problems Blu, the first L88b seller, had some time ago.

    I have a 510, but it is just too darn heavy for on-the-go use, I have to prime puff it before taking an inhale, and my cheeks get tired of sucking so hard after a while (L88b draw is easy like you are sucking through a straw). But it is a vapor beast and I look like a steam engine when I use it.

    I haven't tried the Revolver Elite yet, but I want to after I learn more about its compatibility with other models and after they've had a chance to work out some of the PCC issues some users have been experiencing.

    If you do go with the L88b model, and if you enjoy heavy Marlboro Red style cigs, I suggest you also buy some 306a atomizers (rockymountainvapor.com sells them) since it fits perfectly and produces more vapor and a stronger throat hit.

    L88b PCC is great because it lets you fit 5 fully assembled carts and atomizers, along with one fully assembled e-cig. That lets you keep the same flavor for each atomizer, gives 6 available cart/attys for long trips between refilling them, and lets you pull the e-cig out for immediate puffing.

    Ok, sorry everyone for the L88b love. Please resume the regularly scheduled 510 love fest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destx View Post
    Any suggestions of e-cigs that look like actual cigs?
    Go on you tube and search for e cig reviews. You will find reviews of the Revolver 702, Joye 510, Dragon 401 - a bunch of them. Seeing for yourself is the best way to tell. We have a DSE901 and a M702 with a PCC. The M702 looks just like a regular analog cig - but the smaller the e cig, the less time the battery lasts and the less time the cart will last without having to fill again. Keep that in mind. You might find yourself, like a lot of others, getting more than one e cig for different occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABeachBum View Post
    Actual Cig look and feel was my TOP concern as well. Thus I ended up going with an L88b model. It is sold at Blucig.com, volcanoecigs.com, and 3domecigs.com (freedom ePack); all interchangable with each other; exact same size as a 'King' Analog Cigarette.

    ModernVapor.com also sells the SideSho, which is the same as the L88b model, but with a longer battery and more personal customer service. Lots of sellers for the L88b and compatible models, so you end up with quite the selection of LED colors.

    However, the L88b model seems to be quite disliked amongst the serious vaporers, especially on this forum, so many L88b lovers stay quiet. The reason seems to be due to the limited vapor production, short battery life, and shipping/PCC problems Blu, the first L88b seller, had some time ago.

    I have a 510, but it is just too darn heavy for on-the-go use, I have to prime puff it before taking an inhale, and my cheeks get tired of sucking so hard after a while (L88b draw is easy like you are sucking through a straw). But it is a vapor beast and I look like a steam engine when I use it.

    I haven't tried the Revolver Elite yet, but I want to after I learn more about its compatibility with other models and after they've had a chance to work out some of the PCC issues some users have been experiencing.

    If you do go with the L88b model, and if you enjoy heavy Marlboro Red style cigs, I suggest you also buy some 306a atomizers (rockymountainvapor.com sells them) since it fits perfectly and produces more vapor and a stronger throat hit.

    L88b PCC is great because it lets you fit 5 fully assembled carts and atomizers, along with one fully assembled e-cig. That lets you keep the same flavor for each atomizer, gives 6 available cart/attys for long trips between refilling them, and lets you pull the e-cig out for immediate puffing.

    Ok, sorry everyone for the L88b love. Please resume the regularly scheduled 510 love fest.
    Agree 100%.

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