Woe the learning curve.

[VON]

i also was a long term ciggy user 43years,have not smoked 1 ciggy in 8 months.the 1st time i used an e cig. i said ya know!! this thing is doable! dont get me wrong there have been good vape'n day's and bad vape'n day's and the bad vape'n day's can be very bad!!!!!but ya know as of now i'm of a mindset that i'll never give this up.or at least untill it is of my choice!!

I am with you on that. I was/am a heavy smoker for 20 some odd years and this is the only thing that has worked for me. I even used that stupid computer thingy to taper me off cigs...I mean NOTHING worked for me.

I hope our government doesn't ban these things, because it will mean I am back on the anologs and certain death for me.

BTW- I know my wife is sold on these vaporizers (I think it was a mistake to name them e-cigs)...my art studio(which is my garage) has aired out and doesn't stink anymore.

[k lady]

A couple of questions I've really wanted to ask a "vet":

1. Are you still, or perhaps again, using the stock filler that comes in the carts? I imagine you've tried them all (mods) and am curious as to what has been consistently working for you.

2. Do you try to clean your atties or do you treat them as "disposable" parts? If you clean them, what have you found works best?

3. How do you treat a new atty to alleviate that gawd awful taste? I've read everything from cleaning to blowing to burning off. It almost makes me cry when I've buggered up a perfectly broken in atty and am resigned to unwrapping a new one.

[frogbmth]

OK here are my answers, beware these are just my personal choices

1. Given up on cart filler completely except in cartomizers. I sometimes use a fresh cart in my JantyStick and KBC but when I am done I throw it out. I cant be doing with messing about with filler, its non stop messing about

2. I blow them out from time to time with a can of air, but don't soak them in cola or anything. I find they clog and go wimpy real fast if you use VG, the ones used with only PG seem to last me. I have one with six months on it and it's only ever had PG in it, it produces massive clouds still and the draw hasn't gone tight. I suspect VG kills atties much faster than PG and that foul taste only seems to come from VG for me.

3. I blow it out with a can of air, dry it, flood it with a load of pure PG, blow it out again and then prime it with juice for use. Works for me

Andy

[Caesarea]

Following answers are personal and may not suit your vapestyle. Other people will have other answers!!!

1. Any cart is just a glorified filter for me - if prefilled I'll keep it from totally drying out by keeping the surface moist but I won't waste juice in it - I use a needlepoint bottle to drip with. An empty cart is OK too or just the mouthpiece the atty came with. I don't like vapourised filling materials - none of them can be good for the lungs. I can't be bothered with straws, fluval snippets or the like. Pull off mouthpiece, drip, shove mouthpiece back on.

2. Blow out and drain atties but never clean them. Vape plain VG (Ecomix) to chase away a flavour I didn't like or no longer want.
3. Have only ever had that roasted socks flavour problem with 801 atties with carts on penstyle batts. Don't use 'em much any more except on a 3.7v box mod - the consistent battery life may help break the 801 atties in quicker and keep them cleaner tasting and I drip very sparingly with 801s using mouthpiece and no cart.
Cheers,

C.

PS should say I mostly use 901 and 510 atties on battery mods.

[k lady]

OK here are my answers, beware these are just my personal choices

1. Given up on cart filler completely except in cartomizers. I sometimes use a fresh cart in my JantyStick and KBC but when I am done I throw it out. I cant be doing with messing about with filler, its non stop messing about

So, you drip directly onto the atty? I'm currently using a 510 (own a 901 also, shelved as I'm trying to master one at a time!) and use a USB connection while at home on the computer. Spend many hours at work during the week, cycling through recharged batts. I can't see how frequent dripping ("non stop messing about," for me) would be feasible at work, so I'm currently filling up round carts and plugging them with a bit of the blue foam as the stock fiber material had me pulling out my hair within a week! What am I missing?

2. I blow them out from time to time with a can of air, but don't soak them in cola or anything. I find they clog and go wimpy real fast if you use VG, the ones used with only PG seem to last me. I have one with six months on it and it's only ever had PG in it, it produces massive clouds still and the draw hasn't gone tight. I suspect VG kills atties much faster than PG and that foul taste only seems to come from VG for me.

I haven't tried VG as of yet. Six months on an atty could be some kind of record, from what I've read!

3. I blow it out with a can of air, dry it, flood it with a load of pure PG, blow it out again and then prime it with juice for use. Works for me

Just reading that word "flood" makes me cringe ! I guess you can tell what I've had issues with lately, and yes, I'm sure there's a clue as to why in my comment to #1 above.

Andy

Thanks so much for the input, Andy. I'm hoping to find a good solution for my personal wants/needs by learning from others!

[Slickstick]

If you don't mind dripping all the time that is the way to go. The best filler for a cart, for me, is the blue foam. I have heard that a straw mod's makes it better. I will try that soon. I use thick VG. I like the vapor. We are all looking for a better material and bigger cart mods. I have a manual titan. My atty's are 3 weeks old and working fine. I have cleaned some before by boiling them 3 minutes and then dunking them in isopropyl alcohol and then blowing them out. Then drip on the wick before attatching a wet cart. Keep the wicks wet. I will not clean them until I have to. The old ones I cleaned are dead. Most likely because I pulled out the wicking material inside thinking it was loose polyfill. I cleaned them when I didn't need to. Everything I tried has filled my mouth full of liquid at least once except dripping cartless.
Take this with a grain of salt I have only been vaping three weeks.
But I have been ALL OVER these and other forums learning and trying new stuff.
Hope this helps!

[k lady]

Following answers are personal and may not suit your vapestyle. Other people will have other answers!!!

1. Any cart is just a glorified filter for me - if prefilled I'll keep it from totally drying out by keeping the surface moist but I won't waste juice in it - I use a needlepoint bottle to drip with. An empty cart is OK too or just the mouthpiece the atty came with. I don't like vapourised filling materials - none of them can be good for the lungs. I can't be bothered with straws, fluval snippets or the like. Pull off mouthpiece, drip, shove mouthpiece back on.

OK, I can picture the needlepoint reaching in far enough to drip a few drops directly onto the atty. How many drops so as not to flood? How long, or how many goodly draws, does this last on average? Did you go through the whole replacement cart filler debacle at some point?

2. Blow out and drain atties but never clean them. Vape plain VG (Ecomix) to chase away a flavour I didn't like or no longer want.

Do you do this on a regular, say daily, basis or just when they start to act up? How long does a well cared for atty last you? Do you prefer only VG or do you use PG liquids also?

3. Have only ever had that roasted socks flavour problem with 801 atties with carts on penstyle batts. Don't use 'em much any more except on a 3.7v box mod - the consistent battery life may help break the 801 atties in quicker and keep them cleaner tasting and I drip very sparingly with 801s using mouthpiece and no cart

By "mouthpiece," do you mean basically an empty cart or is there another gadget that's escaped my notice? If using a cart with filler, do you ascribe to the opinion that there IS a proper way to seat it in relation to the atty bridge or its base? I forgot to include this particular question in my initial post, but I'm very curious to read your answer.


Cheers,

C.

PS should say I mostly use 901 and 510 atties on battery mods.

Thanks in advance, Caesarea, for taking the time with this "newbie"....

[k lady]

If you don't mind dripping all the time that is the way to go. The best filler for a cart, for me, is the blue foam. I have heard that a straw mod's makes it better. I will try that soon. I use thick VG. I like the vapor. We are all looking for a better material and bigger cart mods. I have a manual titan. My atty's are 3 weeks old and working fine. I have cleaned some before by boiling them 3 minutes and then dunking them in isopropyl alcohol and then blowing them out. Then drip on the wick before attatching a wet cart. Keep the wicks wet. I will not clean them until I have to. The old ones I cleaned are dead. Most likely because I pulled out the wicking material inside thinking it was loose polyfill. I cleaned them when I didn't need to. Everything I tried has filled my mouth full of liquid at least once except dripping cartless.
Take this with a grain of salt I have only been vaping three weeks.
But I have been ALL OVER these and other forums learning and trying new stuff.
Hope this helps!

It sounds like you and I are on the same path in our quest to replace the dreaded stinkies with something that is not only infinitely more pleasurable but socially acceptable as well. As with any technology and the bright minds that advance it, I only hope the imperfections are soon a thing of the past which will prompt more and more people to make the switch and stick with it. I don't care how great it is, many will give up if it's too much of a hassle and the problems can't be worked out .

Thanks for the input!

[frogbmth]

The 510 isn't the best device to drip with, two drops is all that it will take and you can still flood it. If pulling the cart off and dripping from a bottle into the atty each time you want a vape session is not practical for you, dont sweat it as it isn't the only way.

It sounds like cartomizers might be the answer you are searching for

[Caesarea]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caesarea
Following answers are personal and may not suit your vapestyle. Other people will have other answers!!!

1. Any cart is just a glorified filter for me - if prefilled I'll keep it from totally drying out by keeping the surface moist but I won't waste juice in it - I use a needlepoint bottle to drip with. An empty cart is OK too or just the mouthpiece the atty came with. I don't like vapourised filling materials - none of them can be good for the lungs. I can't be bothered with straws, fluval snippets or the like. Pull off mouthpiece, drip, shove mouthpiece back on.

OK, I can picture the needlepoint reaching in far enough to drip a few drops directly onto the atty. How many drops so as not to flood? How long, or how many goodly draws, does this last on average? Did you go through the whole replacement cart filler debacle at some point?
Nio I don't reach in with the needlepoint. What it does is deliver very precise and small drops - no flood risk as with eye-droppers. How long? 30mins to 1 hour - never count the draws. No - cart modding has never interested me - yuck to the mess and fiddling.

2. Blow out and drain atties but never clean them. Vape plain VG (Ecomix) to chase away a flavour I didn't like or no longer want.

Do you do this on a regular, say daily, basis or just when they start to act up? How long does a well cared for atty last you? Do you prefer only VG or do you use PG liquids also?

Only when there is a gurgly draw - not often on a battery mod. Atty lasts about 3 minutes on 6volts, so I just don't go there!
At 3.7v 2- 3 weeks (801) and a month or more 901/510.
Use PG and VG - switching over when fed up of one.


3. Have only ever had that roasted socks flavour problem with 801 atties with carts on penstyle batts. Don't use 'em much any more except on a 3.7v box mod - the consistent battery life may help break the 801 atties in quicker and keep them cleaner tasting and I drip very sparingly with 801s using mouthpiece and no cart

By "mouthpiece," do you mean basically an empty cart or is there another gadget that's escaped my notice? If using a cart with filler, do you ascribe to the opinion that there IS a proper way to seat it in relation to the atty bridge or its base? I forgot to include this particular question in my initial post, but I'm very curious to read your answer.

Mouthpiece = the cap or cart the atty came with.
The only alignment that seems to me to be crucial in my PVs is with the 510: Eclypse's photo of the 510 shows the correct alignment of cart and atty to avoid cart plastic melting/burning. See Below*
The 801s I have left have all been low bridge.


Cheers,

C.

PS should say I mostly use 901 and 510 atties on battery mods.

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http://media.use.com/images/s_2/2720...a7c6daa_19.jpg
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