Why ban e-cigarettes?

[jacknthemonkeys]

I'm just so sick of not being able to hurt myself without being a criminal. Masochism is how we feel our mortality and fight the fear of death by showing a little control over it. Forced morality and safety breeds dangerous psychological tendencies in society. Without suffering there is no contrast with pleasure. Blah blah

[Taelon]

Originally Posted by Danny

I have noticed that some countries are starting to ban e-cigarettes.
is it some other reason they are getting banned?

The chinese manufacturers were better of doing more indepemdant scientfic studies and operating within the WHO regulatory framework.

Thanks for the bans go to idiot $$$ marketers who lied about e-cigarettes being declared "Healthy" by the WHO, but never declared "Healthy" by the WHO. That's the main reason for many countries to crack down on it because of unserious practice of such sellers violating medical laws of most countries.

A pity for us and the serious sellers and suppliers

Well, the problem on the other hand in my country is that we've got a mid-age like pharmacists shops monopoly here with large legislator lobby which has lead to highest medical prices worldwide, so "within the DE regulatory framework" would >4x the prices of e-cigarettes and liquid distributed here if it is forced under their exclusive distribution
So hard decision. But authorities will make it sooner or later...

Only lawsuite help we could use against authorities to block e-cigarette imports here could be that German Judges already sentenced against the liability of cigarette manufacturers in the case of Reemtsma, "Everyone who smokes cannot hold the cigarette industry responsible for health damage", U.S. Judges sentenced otherwise as anyone knows.

It will go Shenzen v.s. Western Pharmacy Corporation Trusts like Nicorette's, they will not leave it at "Nicorette Inhaler" TV-commercials, their guys are working hand-in-hand with the Federal Health Ministry here so it is just a matter of time until they crack down if the chinese do not provide good health scientfic material for their products and start contributing to the minimum requirements of western health frameworks.

[dc2k08]

Phillip Morris, and Kraft, are 2 company's I understand that have already started. No conspiracy, jus da facts, jack

Smilin, can you tell us the source for this fact?

[TropicalBob]

I, too, would like "just the facts" on involvement by Philip Morris and Kraft. Can you give us a reliable source to read?

[Myk]

Can someone supply one of those manufactures who say they are declared healthy by the WHO?
All I saw was one touting it as NRT and that WHO backs NRT. They did not say WHO backs their e-cig NRT.

[Taelon]

See WHO press release (google).

[Myk]

Originally Posted by Taelon

See WHO press release (google).

Ahh, but that's from WHO. I want to see it from the manufacturer.
I think WHO is mad that someone claims e-cig is NRT and WHO supports NRT which implies WHO supports e-cig.
So WHO is twisting back saying that manufacturer claimed who backs e-cigs, which I have not found.
I saw what WHO said. I did not see a link or a manufacturer named in their statement.

[Kate]

The DSE901 manuals have reference to WHO which implies endorsement. At least they used to, I don't know if they've been updated.

[Taelon]

That maybe the reason why I got my DSE901's without manual

[Myk]

Originally Posted by Kate

The DSE901 manuals have reference to WHO which implies endorsement. At least they used to, I don't know if they've been updated.

So does the RN4072 and RoyalSmokers.
But like I said, it says that WHO recommends NRT, not that WHO recommends e-cig.
It says the e-cig was made according to NRT.
I'm sure it was intentionally worded like that to "imply". But implying, especially in the written word requires the reader to make the jump.
Yes it's lawyer ball, but it still makes WHO wrong unless they can provide the quote that actually says what they claim.