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    I'm a huge fan of the Panzer, but you can never go wrong with a Nemesis or Chi You.

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    How about HCigar Stingray clone?...The Fasttech one got good reviews, so the HCigar one might be better

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    Not a fan of clones. The closest I have come is the Russian 91%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    EHpro and Hcigar are consistently the best quality clones. Regardless of the model, you can't go wrong with either one.

    Tobeco clones are generally very good, but they do have some quality control issues at times. It's usually best to wait until they've released a new revision or two of a product before buying one.

    Cheaper Fastech clones are cheaper for a reason. You see a few popup in this thread. Crunchy buttons on a Nemesis? The only time I've seen that on an Hcigar or EHpro is when the user didn't get the button pin tight and it wobbled around. If that pin is nice and tight it's butter smooth every single time, no magnets needed.

    And are you really saving money on that cheap fasttech clone if you then have to spend more money on magnets to make it work right?


    Same story with the Kayfun clones. Hcigar and EHpro are as close as you can get to the real thing. Fasttech ones are hit and miss with poor quality control leading to issues like the juice channels either being blocked or too open, leaking, etc...



    Now, in regards to mech mods I would first consider what you are wanting to use it for. If you're looking for a good, reliable, high powered vape and maybe dabble a bit in subohming just to see what it's all about then any good quality mech mod will do the job.

    However, if you're going to be serious about subohming and every last little bit of power counts then you're going to want to look at the full load voltage loss of the mech mod in question. Some mods lose a LOT of power through the body of the mod, others are extremely conductive and loose almost nothing. All brass or all copper mods with silver plated connections would be ideal, but some stainless steel mods also loose very little if any voltage through the body. A loss of just .1-.2 volts in the body can mean a loss of 3-5 watts at the coil when subohming.
    well said....you can buy 10 clones and maybe get close to where you want to be for a few months til things wear out.if you are serious about fine tuning a vape buy a quality mod and forget about spending money on that aspect and move into the much cheaper world of various toppers and builds. research goes a long way here.
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    I agree. Make a small investment in a high quality device. You cannot go wrong in the long run. My first mod was an Icon 14500. Still works flawlessly to this day. I purchased this device back in 2010. Most clones will will fall apart down the road. If you go with good quality, these devices will last a lifetime. I love the Super-t devices. There are a lot of really good mod makers out there! Do your research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poconojo View Post
    I agree. Make a small investment in a high quality device. You cannot go wrong in the long run. My first mod was an Icon 14500. Still works flawlessly to this day. I purchased this device back in 2010. Most clones will will fall apart down the road. If you go with good quality, these devices will last a lifetime. I love the Super-t devices. There are a lot of really good mod makers out there! Do your research.
    if you haven't check out the Shotgun Mod by emit vapors. silver plated copper pins, magnetic switch and 3 tubes. flawless threading and in a pinch it is perfect for home defense. hits almost as hard as my vanilla copper. haven't seen a clone though...LOL!

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    Honestly, after getting my Hcigar Nemesis clone comparing it to my genuine 69 mod..(mind you the same maker designed both mods) I'll probably never go back to a genuine mod minus a REO. Yeah it may fall apart after 6 months or so but I paid 30$ for it (or 40 including upgrades, pins and magnets) and it hits much harder and a much smoother and better vape than my 69 mod. I'll stick to genuine atty's and the likes, but as far as the mod itself goes, you can help the clones granted you get a good one last a good bit. Who really sits there and throws their mod around or drops them off a building to destroy them? It's all about use and how you treat your equipment IMO... of course YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Rizo View Post
    I'll stick to genuine atty's and the likes,
    Try an Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 or Trident clone and you may change your mind about that as well. I've held both the real and Hcigar Trident clones in my hand and couldn't tell the difference. Even the owner had to place a little dimple mark with his awl on the Hcigar clone so he would know which was which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    Try an Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 or Trident clone and you may change your mind about that as well. I've held both the real and Hcigar Trident clones in my hand and couldn't tell the difference. Even the owner had to place a little dimple mark with his awl on the Hcigar clone so he would know which was which.
    well I have the genuine kayfun otherwise I probably would get the clone heh, what is really peaked my interest is the magma or the origen, they seem amazing.

    Either way, to the op, a lot will recommend trying out the clone first so you get a good idea of what you really want before making a big dollar purchase, considering what I've already been through I too recommend this route.

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    Ive been using an hcigar chiyou for the past year and have had zero problems. Alot of people cant just go out an buy an authentic and these work just fine. As long as you aren't smoking, who cares if its a clone or authentic.
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