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Old 01-21-2009, 01:51 PM   #11
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This is the first I've read of flavor possibly coming out of suspension, Heed, but it's certainly a possibility. Thanks for alerting us. My own problem has been weak flavors, almost DOA from the start. Wimp flavors, I call them. Coffee is my chief complaint. In the e-liquids I've tried, it's not even Sanka!

If you ever get into making your own, as I've done many times, you'll observe that the contents don't freely mix. Poured separately, they look like a layered cake. So I have had to "shake" the bottle, rocking it back and forth until mixing occurs. I use commercial e-liquid (for its known nicotine content), Bickford PG-based flavoring, vegetable glycerine and Kahlua liquor (to thin and add taste).

It seems possible to me that a flavor ingredient could come out of suspension and require remixing by shaking. And if the flavor is alcohol-based to begin with, maybe it weakens with each exposure to air. Interesting problem and I'll be interested in anyone else who had a similar experience -- and how they handled it.
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Are you dripping?

I find if I re-use a cart too many times the flavor gets muddy
If I top off and it tastes funky I usually toss the cart and start on a new one or try washing it out if I'm low on spares, but the liquid is fine

I too had this thought once on my work e-cig but I took the bottle home and used it on my house ecig and it was fine, then I brought my work e-cig home boiled the atomiser and used a fresh cart; problem solved

I think the flavour is so subtle that it can get overwhelmed with old funky buildup
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Are you dripping?

I find if I re-use a cart too many times the flavor gets muddy
If I top off and it tastes funky I usually toss the cart and start on a new one or try washing it out if I'm low on spares, but the liquid is fine

I too had this thought once on my work e-cig but I took the bottle home and used it on my house ecig and it was fine, then I brought my work e-cig home boiled the atomiser and used a fresh cart; problem solved

I think the flavour is so subtle that it can get overwhelmed with old funky buildup
I use carts. I have tried dripping a couple of times, but I'd rather not risk a flood. I actually tried dripping when I noticed the flavour drop off, but with the same result.

I just got fresh blank carts this Tuesday and even on a new cart the flavour is almost non-existant. I actually notice less flavour with the fresh blanks -- I assume it's because the old carts still have remnants of the liquid when the flavour was stronger.

The atomiser angle is an interesting idea. It has done a couple of cleaning cycles in the past week. I tried to catch them quickly and remove the battery, but I definitely noticed the plastic taste afterwards for a dozen or so drags.

Still, when smelling the bottle of liquid itself the strawberry aroma is definitely much weaker than when I first opened it.

Thanks for everyone's responses so far.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:05 PM   #14
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This is the first I've read of flavor possibly coming out of suspension, Heed, but it's certainly a possibility. Thanks for alerting us. My own problem has been weak flavors, almost DOA from the start. Wimp flavors, I call them. Coffee is my chief complaint. In the e-liquids I've tried, it's not even Sanka!

If you ever get into making your own, as I've done many times, you'll observe that the contents don't freely mix. Poured separately, they look like a layered cake. So I have had to "shake" the bottle, rocking it back and forth until mixing occurs. I use commercial e-liquid (for its known nicotine content), Bickford PG-based flavoring, vegetable glycerine and Kahlua liquor (to thin and add taste).

It seems possible to me that a flavor ingredient could come out of suspension and require remixing by shaking. And if the flavor is alcohol-based to begin with, maybe it weakens with each exposure to air. Interesting problem and I'll be interested in anyone else who had a similar experience -- and how they handled it.
Yes, when I tried the strawberry for the first time it was much weaker than what I imagined it would be. My original concern was it being too much and tasting sickly, but once I tried the liquid I knew that wouldn't be a concern. I could certainly be happy with a flavour that is 2-4 times as strong as when I first opened the bottle.

The specific gravity of each solution will, in part, determine how well they mix, I imagine. I worked in bars for a decade when I was younger and that's the basic idea behind making a "layered shooter" like a B-52. The differing specific gravities of each liquer allow for layering them on top of eachother without them mixing -- you just need to get the order correct.

That's a good point about alcohol based flavours. Although, the cap was only off the bottle for the time I was topping up and then went right back on firmly. Seems to me evaporation would have been very minimal.
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hmmm , seems i'm not the only one then..lets crossreference

Totally wicked Flavour ..where'd it go !!
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