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Slink · 02-13-2009, 02:22 AM

Hello ecigforum, and welcome to my ''virgin'' post

(which is a series of questions heh)

First, just today I got my first e-cig from INSTEAD e-cig.org. It's the regular one with 50x cartriges. The first thing I noticed is that both the regular full flavor and high nicotine menthol carts taste kinda like a burning hookah, and nothing at all like a regular cig :/

I was wondering if I can use e-liquid (like from wicked-e-liquid) to fill up these carts, or if the ones from their site will fit on this cig. Also, what liquid/cart/whatever tastes the most like a real cig, cause even though I'm getting the nic fix, the taste is a serious downer to me

( hehe.

Next up: What is the most reliable e-cig out there that I won't have to replace atomizers and batteries, and all kinds of crazy stuff on (in the sad event that this one becomes unservicable :/ )

Lastly, what is the best liquid/cart/whatever that uses VG instead of PG, as I think I may have a slight allergic reaction to it (not enough to matter, just enough to annoy :P)

Thanks for your time

-Mike

Elle · 02-13-2009, 02:51 AM

i'm a novice, so this may be the blind leading the blind- but i've been lurking here for a while so i can tell you what i've heard.

if i'm a little off, anyone feel free to correct me.

1. From what I hear, no cartridge or e-liquid really tastes exactly like a cigarette. there's a thread floating around somewhere where people gave their opinions on what they feel comes closest. many people seem to have ventured away from traditional tobacco/menthol into candy and fruit flavors also.
I can't answer what carts are compatible with your model, but i don't see why you couldn't top off the ones you have w/ e-liquid a couple times.

2. if you find an e-cig that doesn't need part replacement PLEASE let me know- i've been lurking for a while and i haven't heard of one yet. some seem to last longer than others and there are variables involved (frequency of usage, proper care, etc.), but like i said i don't know if there is a "forever" e-cig around yet.

3. i think its johnsons creek that does the vg eliquid, or you can venture into making your own brew.

hth

Chuffer · 02-13-2009, 03:01 AM

1. Yes, Johnson Creek has the VG juice.
2. As for reliability, these products are crapshoots at best (get a great one or get a lemon), or wholesale ripoffs at best (we know THOSE companies). As one suggestion (but certainly not the only possibility), Janty charges premium prices but the payoff is you're sure of having lickety-split responsive customer service if/when something fails. Another suggestion for reliability is Trog's Screwdriver. I can't vouch for the SD's reliability--I've only just started using one and only time will tell.

JustJulie · 02-13-2009, 03:03 AM

Well, another newcomer here, but I've been lurking like Elle, and what she shared jibes with what I've read, too.

Someone awhile back made the comment that we're all basically beta testers for e-cigs, that the technology still isn't all that reliable, and I have to totally agree. One person will post how their model XYZ is awesome and has been going strong for months, and then someone else will post how they bought that same e-cig, and it's been nothing but trouble.

The best advice I can give you is make sure you purchase a spare atomizer. Atomizers will die for no reason. Even if you buy from a company with an awesome warranty and they're willing to replace a bum atomizer, it will take time to arrive, and in the meanwhile, you're out in the cold.

Elle is also dead-on in terms of the liquids. It really is a matter of taste . . and tastes differ . . . dramatically. Just think about how loyal people often are to their particular brand of tobacco cigarettes.

I will say, though, that I have been shocked at how much I enjoy the flavored juices. I bought coffee eliquid on a whim, and I fell in love. So now I've branched out, and I'm enjoying all sorts of different flavors that I never would have thought about vaping. A chocolate cigarette?

, but vaping chocolate is actually quite pleasant.

And, yes, you can use eliquid to refill your carts. There are some good video tutorials on how to do that. I'm sure someone will post them, or you can browse the forum and find them easily enough. Yeah, I'm lazy.

ZambucaLu · 02-13-2009, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Slink

Hello ecigforum, and welcome to my ''virgin'' post

(which is a series of questions heh)

First, just today I got my first e-cig from INSTEAD e-cig.org. It's the regular one with 50x cartriges. The first thing I noticed is that both the regular full flavor and high nicotine menthol carts taste kinda like a burning hookah, and nothing at all like a regular cig :/

I was wondering if I can use e-liquid (like from wicked-e-liquid) to fill up these carts, or if the ones from their site will fit on this cig. Also, what liquid/cart/whatever tastes the most like a real cig, cause even though I'm getting the nic fix, the taste is a serious downer to me

( hehe.

Next up: What is the most reliable e-cig out there that I won't have to replace atomizers and batteries, and all kinds of crazy stuff on (in the sad event that this one becomes unservicable :/ )

Lastly, what is the best liquid/cart/whatever that uses VG instead of PG, as I think I may have a slight allergic reaction to it (not enough to matter, just enough to annoy :P)

Thanks for your time

-Mike

I (personally) don't know offhand if Wicked's carts will fit your device....depends on which model it is. But yes, you can fill the carts with their juice....or any juice, for that matter.

The only apparent supplier who uses VG or PG is Johnson Creek.

And yes, we all want the most dependable ecig ever made but unfortunately, it hasn't been made yet...lol

Different members will say different things but I personally swear by the penstyle....and if you use the penstyle usb passthrough that is also sold, you can save some on batteries.

Here is a thread that mentions a tobacco flavor some seem to like and it's sold by Johnson Creek. With the VG, maybe you can kill 2 birds with one stone

I need some juice

Good luck!

Lu

Slink · 02-13-2009, 03:38 AM

Hey guys thanks for the quick replies

Just to be safe, I went ahead and bought about 230bucks worth of stuff from TW-Eliquid, as their products seem to have the best reviews on here heh. I think I got like 4 atomizers, the platinum pen style thing, 4 batteries, 50 carts, and 2 bottles of 36mg liquid. (just hope it gets here before I leave for 2 months :/ lol) Also, on the flavored smoking thing, I smoke cigs for the cig flavor (believe it or not, that's prolly 50% of why I smoke at all) and I'm not really brand specific, as I smoke everything from marb-newport-camel-sonoma-whatever else tickles my fancy at the time; BUT, it has to be tobacco flavored :P I smoke hookah when I want to get some flavored nic in me, and even then, I take a break every half hour or so to go smoke a real cig hehe

Denni · 02-13-2009, 03:17 PM

Careful with the 36mg juice, you can easily overdose on nic!

Cutting it with glycerine will make it taste very sweet. I intent to do that and add some candy flavours (peanut butter, cherry etc), but sadly no tobacco taste

For direct dripping, French pipe consistently gets the best reviews and I haven't found anything that tastes more tobacco-like.

Kestrial · 02-13-2009, 07:15 PM

For me, Jane's Virginia Primo tastes the most cig like to me. The exhale is so similar to the real cig taste it's uncanny. The inhale has the same vague sweetness that all juice seems to (less so than most but still there) but the exhale has a surprisingly 'ashy' taste.

Parallx · 02-14-2009, 04:28 AM

Personally, the closest to an analog I've found is Camel from Litecigusa Not exact, but as a Camel Lights smoker for 10 years, pretty darn close.

Spikey · 02-14-2009, 04:47 AM

Most people branch out to flavors because once their taste buds refresh (after lowering the amount of analog cigs daily) the flavor of the tobacco is not the same as it was when they were smoking and it does not taste very good. 36 MG is VERY high.. even tho you would think it is what u need. It may be a good idea to get a 11 MG and then u can mix the 2 and make a right mixture so u don't OD or get headaches. I was a pack to a pack and a half a day of full flavor menthol cigs and I got 24 and it was too high for me... gave me headaches and dizziness.

02-13-2009, 02:22 AM	#1
Slink Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myer, VA (Near DC) Posts: 6	Most realistic flavor (and how to get it) Most reliable e-cig Hello ecigforum, and welcome to my ''virgin'' post (which is a series of questions heh) First, just today I got my first e-cig from INSTEAD e-cig.org. It's the regular one with 50x cartriges. The first thing I noticed is that both the regular full flavor and high nicotine menthol carts taste kinda like a burning hookah, and nothing at all like a regular cig :/ I was wondering if I can use e-liquid (like from wicked-e-liquid) to fill up these carts, or if the ones from their site will fit on this cig. Also, what liquid/cart/whatever tastes the most like a real cig, cause even though I'm getting the nic fix, the taste is a serious downer to me ( hehe. Next up: What is the most reliable e-cig out there that I won't have to replace atomizers and batteries, and all kinds of crazy stuff on (in the sad event that this one becomes unservicable :/ ) Lastly, what is the best liquid/cart/whatever that uses VG instead of PG, as I think I may have a slight allergic reaction to it (not enough to matter, just enough to annoy :P) Thanks for your time -Mike

02-14-2009, 04:28 AM	#9
Parallx Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 41	Personally, the closest to an analog I've found is Camel from Litecigusa Not exact, but as a Camel Lights smoker for 10 years, pretty darn close. __________________

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02-13-2009, 02:51 AM	#2
Elle Super Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 402	i'm a novice, so this may be the blind leading the blind- but i've been lurking here for a while so i can tell you what i've heard. if i'm a little off, anyone feel free to correct me. 1. From what I hear, no cartridge or e-liquid really tastes exactly like a cigarette. there's a thread floating around somewhere where people gave their opinions on what they feel comes closest. many people seem to have ventured away from traditional tobacco/menthol into candy and fruit flavors also. I can't answer what carts are compatible with your model, but i don't see why you couldn't top off the ones you have w/ e-liquid a couple times. 2. if you find an e-cig that doesn't need part replacement PLEASE let me know- i've been lurking for a while and i haven't heard of one yet. some seem to last longer than others and there are variables involved (frequency of usage, proper care, etc.), but like i said i don't know if there is a "forever" e-cig around yet. 3. i think its johnsons creek that does the vg eliquid, or you can venture into making your own brew. hth

02-13-2009, 03:01 AM	#3
Chuffer Supporting Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York State Posts: 123	1. Yes, Johnson Creek has the VG juice. 2. As for reliability, these products are crapshoots at best (get a great one or get a lemon), or wholesale ripoffs at best (we know THOSE companies). As one suggestion (but certainly not the only possibility), Janty charges premium prices but the payoff is you're sure of having lickety-split responsive customer service if/when something fails. Another suggestion for reliability is Trog's Screwdriver. I can't vouch for the SD's reliability--I've only just started using one and only time will tell.

02-13-2009, 03:03 AM	#4
JustJulie PV Activist Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,221	Well, another newcomer here, but I've been lurking like Elle, and what she shared jibes with what I've read, too. Someone awhile back made the comment that we're all basically beta testers for e-cigs, that the technology still isn't all that reliable, and I have to totally agree. One person will post how their model XYZ is awesome and has been going strong for months, and then someone else will post how they bought that same e-cig, and it's been nothing but trouble. The best advice I can give you is make sure you purchase a spare atomizer. Atomizers will die for no reason. Even if you buy from a company with an awesome warranty and they're willing to replace a bum atomizer, it will take time to arrive, and in the meanwhile, you're out in the cold. Elle is also dead-on in terms of the liquids. It really is a matter of taste . . and tastes differ . . . dramatically. Just think about how loyal people often are to their particular brand of tobacco cigarettes. I will say, though, that I have been shocked at how much I enjoy the flavored juices. I bought coffee eliquid on a whim, and I fell in love. So now I've branched out, and I'm enjoying all sorts of different flavors that I never would have thought about vaping. A chocolate cigarette? , but vaping chocolate is actually quite pleasant. And, yes, you can use eliquid to refill your carts. There are some good video tutorials on how to do that. I'm sure someone will post them, or you can browse the forum and find them easily enough. Yeah, I'm lazy.

02-13-2009, 03:38 AM	#6
Slink Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myer, VA (Near DC) Posts: 6	Hey guys thanks for the quick replies Just to be safe, I went ahead and bought about 230bucks worth of stuff from TW-Eliquid, as their products seem to have the best reviews on here heh. I think I got like 4 atomizers, the platinum pen style thing, 4 batteries, 50 carts, and 2 bottles of 36mg liquid. (just hope it gets here before I leave for 2 months :/ lol) Also, on the flavored smoking thing, I smoke cigs for the cig flavor (believe it or not, that's prolly 50% of why I smoke at all) and I'm not really brand specific, as I smoke everything from marb-newport-camel-sonoma-whatever else tickles my fancy at the time; BUT, it has to be tobacco flavored :P I smoke hookah when I want to get some flavored nic in me, and even then, I take a break every half hour or so to go smoke a real cig hehe

02-13-2009, 03:17 PM	#7
Denni ECF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 383	Careful with the 36mg juice, you can easily overdose on nic! Cutting it with glycerine will make it taste very sweet. I intent to do that and add some candy flavours (peanut butter, cherry etc), but sadly no tobacco taste For direct dripping, French pipe consistently gets the best reviews and I haven't found anything that tastes more tobacco-like.

02-13-2009, 07:15 PM	#8
Kestrial Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MS, USA Posts: 71	For me, Jane's Virginia Primo tastes the most cig like to me. The exhale is so similar to the real cig taste it's uncanny. The inhale has the same vague sweetness that all juice seems to (less so than most but still there) but the exhale has a surprisingly 'ashy' taste.

02-14-2009, 04:47 AM	#10
Spikey Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 1,336	Most people branch out to flavors because once their taste buds refresh (after lowering the amount of analog cigs daily) the flavor of the tobacco is not the same as it was when they were smoking and it does not taste very good. 36 MG is VERY high.. even tho you would think it is what u need. It may be a good idea to get a 11 MG and then u can mix the 2 and make a right mixture so u don't OD or get headaches. I was a pack to a pack and a half a day of full flavor menthol cigs and I got 24 and it was too high for me... gave me headaches and dizziness.