PG----Found this interesting.

[Smiley1]

Sorry cant start a new thread in the right place LOL but just had to share Sorry couldn't post it in URL form.

SAVE A PET'S LIFE:

Propylene glycol is most known as a biodegradable antifreeze that also is very pet friendly. Typical antifreeze sold in automotive parts stores is very toxic and lethal to animals. Every year, there are near countless pet deaths due to leaking radiators and hoses or antifreeze jugs left accessible to pets - as such lethal antifreeze also has a sweet and attractive taste to most pets. Typical antifreeze destroys the liver and there is little treatment possible unless the pet's stomach is immediately evacuated.

So if you have left over propylene glycol from termite treatment, use if as antifreeze for your vehicles. Propylene glycol also is commonly used to fill sewage lines and toilet taps in houses and buildings left vacant without heat in cold climates to prevent pipes and ceramics ruptured by freezing - without using highly toxic chemicals.

SAFE AND BIODEGRADABLE ANTIFREEZE:

As antifreeze, propylene eliminates the need for periodic changing or recharging of cooling systems. There is no need for supplemental coolant additives. It can be used for seven years or 250,000 miles in passenger cars, light-duty trucks, vans and recreational vehicles. It lasts seven years or 750,000 miles in over-the-road diesel trucks.

BOATER'S CHOICE:

Due to the environment of boats over water, most laws prohibit toxic automotive antifreeze for boat engines. Boaters in cold climates also will pour a little propylene glycol into the drain lines of the boat's sink and toil to prevent freezing bursting of pipes and fixtures during winter storage.

PROPYLENE GLYCOL

Propylene glycol is used:

• As a Moisturizers in medicines, Cosmetics, food , toothpaste, mouth wash, and tobacco products
• In electronic cigarettes to make the produced vapor better resemble cigarette smoke
• As a medical and sexual lubricant (A.K.A. "personal lubricant")
• As an emulsification agent in Angostura and orange bitters
• As a solvent for food colors and flavorings
• As a humectant food additive, labeled as E number E1520
• As a carrier in fragrance oils
• As a less-toxic antifreeze
• As a solvent used in mixing photographic chemicals, such as film developers
• In smoke machines to make artificial smoke for use in firefighters' training and theatrical productions
• In hand sanitizers, antibacterial lotions, and saline solutions
• In cryonics
• As a working fluid in hydraulic presses
• As a coolant in liquid cooling systems
• To regulate humidity in a cigar humidor
• As the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles
• To treat livestock ketosis
• As the main ingredient in deodorant sticks.
• To deice aircraft.

[bobtow]

Pg is also included in dog food. It seems that cats are the only pets to be adversely affectd by pg!

[Garblesnarf]

Wow, I sure take in a lot more PG than I originally thought!

[jcb287]

Wow, I sure take in a lot more PG than I originally thought!

Yeah, kind of what I was thinking also after reading above.

[Bella Chic]

I wonder how much PG you use in the antifreeze deal in your car. Do you just add to your existing antifreeze or do you fill her up with nothing but PG? Gonna have to check into that and see.

[Daifne]

Pg is also included in dog food. It seems that cats are the only pets to be adversely affectd by pg!

What affect does it have on cats? I'm obviously a cat person and do keep all my vaping supplies away from them. I'm just curious.

[bobtow]

What affect does it have on cats? I'm obviously a cat person and do keep all my vaping supplies away from them. I'm just curious.

I can't really remember the source, but go to a pet advisory site and they usually have that info. The last cat food scare about cat food from China was about pg in cat food. It was used in the wet and moist cat foods. I have five of the little beasties. But they prefer the dry stuff.

[Rationality]

I can't really remember the source, but go to a pet advisory site and they usually have that info. The last cat food scare about cat food from China was about pg in cat food. It was used in the wet and moist cat foods. I have five of the little beasties. But they prefer the dry stuff.

"[...]However, propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act."

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[bobtow]

"[...]However, propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act."

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thank you rationality. I finally traced it but it is go to see someone is up on pet food no nos. I don't vape near my cats for that very reason.

[Rationality]

Thank you rationality. I finally traced it but it is go to see someone is up on pet food no nos. I don't vape near my cats for that very reason.

Can't have a pet in my apartment unfortunately, so I've been volunteering at the city animal shelter instead and needed to know whether it was safe to vape there!