Manual vs. Automatic Switch

**Keef** · 03-06-2009, 01:53 AM

I went a bit mad trying flavours a while ago, bought 1 ltr pg which I knew was excessive, it was the only size available at the time , so you are definately not alone.

**Kate** · 03-06-2009, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by rock

Hi Kate,

I have the Janty KissBOx; I get a lot of fog when I first put in a new cart that I filled, then after two hours it diminishes. I think the holes in the atomizer get clogged, then if I draw real hard and then draw normal right after I get a nice fog. This happens a lot, do you know any tricks on how to fix this problem? I tried juice from Johnson Creek and Janty. Cleaning it by washing or compressed air sometimes seems to make things worst.

Thanks
Rock

I've never had much luck with cartridges in my Kissbox, I just drip now. I think it's something to do with the atomiser being efficient and needing more liquid than can wick from the cartridges. If you vape slowly and have long breaks you might find it's not a problem. That isn't the way I want to vape though so I just drip a couple of drops of eliquid onto the atomiser and that vapes nicely for five minutes.

**rock** · 03-06-2009, 03:14 AM

Thats true if you don't vape too much it works better, but I was a chain smoker so I need to vape a lot. Noticed in the morning it works great because it rested all night. LOL

They should invent a cart that you fill with juice and u can press a button that dispenses one drip

**Mouser** · 03-06-2009, 04:27 AM

With my Kissbox, keeping the cart moist seems best. I use the passthru, with a manual switch. That being said, even if the cart gets a bit dry, it still seems ok. I always top off though at the first sign of "burnt taste." With this protocol, so far, so good, after three weeks of heavy usage. All I have done with that atomizers so far is blow through them, just to knock any crud out. I will do a proper cleaning soon though, in an attempt to prolong their life. Also, I am going to try some bestecig atomizers. I don't really like the fact that the Kissbox atomizers cost $18+ each.

If the atomizers are considered "expendable" then $18 is a bit too much to pay over and over, imo.

Of course, this all may be moot soon enough. With the legality climate as it is, I want to lay in a decent three-year supply of goods. A pack of atomizers at $30 for 5 from bestecig may be just the ticket... If these work, and work well with my Kissbox, I am going to really stock up on them. And on a couple thousand ml of liquid...

I have never ever been able to stop smoking with the patch or gum for more than a week. I have gone over a month with my PV setup.

**rock** · 03-06-2009, 04:36 AM

I stopped for 60 days now. I stopped for 3 months with the patch, but I couldn't stop eating. With the E-Cig I don't really need to eat while watching Tv. I will try out what you told me.

I am sort of affraid if there is a problem with the flavors having chems, because when you burn them its not good. I need to e mail Johnson Creek and ask if they have any juice that uses natural flavors

**Mouser** · 03-06-2009, 04:55 AM

Rock -- I'm going to try making my own with some no-flavor 36MG DIY juice from TW, and cutting it with a 40-40-20 blend of VG, PG and Lorann flavor. Taking that blend to make an 18MG juice...

Given the fact that so much of what is in that cocktail is gonna be "unnatural" I'm not really all that concerned by the fact that some of the flavoring may not be "natural"

I am going to try "Horehound" flavor and a host of others, all of which have artificial flavor, but no artificial color.

But this is getting off-topic.

I love my manual switch. It gives me precise control, and the experience overall is much better so far than with my other PV devices. Anything that tries to emulate "cigarette" imo is far more prone to fragility than a good old penstyle with a manual switch. If a Screwdriver didn't seem to be "impossible to get" that is what I'd go for. With the penstyle option, as the carts are much bigger. I dunno why Trog bothers making the smaller 901 cart version... Oh well, enough babble from me.

**julliefishes** · 03-06-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Keef

I went a bit mad trying flavours a while ago, bought 1 ltr pg which I knew was excessive, it was the only size available at the time , so you are definately not alone.

Keef, Thank you assuring me. I was starting to worry that my obsessive side was taking over.

Actually, this place charged me an extra $10.00 for placing a small order, however with the promo code on their site, it reduced it by the same amount.

**julliefishes** · 03-06-2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mouser

Rock -- I'm going to try making my own with some no-flavor 36MG DIY juice from TW, and cutting it with a 40-40-20 blend of VG, PG and Lorann flavor. Taking that blend to make an 18MG juice...

Given the fact that so much of what is in that cocktail is gonna be "unnatural" I'm not really all that concerned by the fact that some of the flavoring may not be "natural"

I am going to try "Horehound" flavor and a host of others, all of which have artificial flavor, but no artificial color.

But this is getting off-topic.

I love my manual switch. It gives me precise control, and the experience overall is much better so far than with my other PV devices. Anything that tries to emulate "cigarette" imo is far more prone to fragility than a good old penstyle with a manual switch. If a Screwdriver didn't seem to be "impossible to get" that is what I'd go for. With the penstyle option, as the carts are much bigger. I dunno why Trog bothers making the smaller 901 cart version... Oh well, enough babble from me.

Hi Rock, Please let us know how your DIY solution/mixture turns out. I intend to follow the same protocol when my supplies get through. Also, thank you for sharing your experience/advise with the manual switch. This is something I will seriously keep in mind for future purchases.

**julliefishes** · 03-06-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by julliefishes

Hi Rock, Please let us know how your DIY solution/mixture turns out. I intend to follow the same protocol when my supplies get through. Also, thank you for sharing your experience/advise with the manual switch. This is something I will seriously keep in mind for future purchases.

Sorry - I meant this for Mouser.

**julliefishes** · 03-06-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Houdini

Actually the DSE901 atomizer does have a manual switch adapter. Its called ScrewDriver.
The only advantage I see is the switch in the battery wont get stuck cause there is none, and it wont have the cleaning cycle. Plus with the SD it has a bigger battery that will last all day and deliver more current to the atomizer and in theory give a better vapor. I'll find out for sure as soon as mine gets here. I won't say its preferable cause I have a regular DSE901 now and am perfectly happy with the auto switch.

Houdini - Let us know when you get your screwdriver, what you think of it compared to the 901. Looking forward to your review. Better yet do a video.