E-cigs without propylene glycol?
Is there a way to use e-cigs without propylene glycol? I am so impressed with how cigarette-like the nicotine in the Njoy Npro felt -- it delivered a big spike of nicotine to my brain through my lungs, just like a cigarette!!! But it left my entire respiratory tract feeling like it had been slimed with chemicals. (The fact that the Njoy leaked nicotine juice didn't help matters)
I don't care if it looks like a cigarette. I don't care if it lights up at the end. I don't need to see clouds of vapor. I just want nicotine delivered in a sharp spike to my brains via my lungs, like a cigarette.
Is the propylene glycol necessary to keep the nicotine suspended all the way into the lungs, or is it just for the fog machine effect? Is there a propylene glycol free alternative? Otherwise I'm going back to snus.
There are suppliers that use Glycerin (VG) that doesn't dry you out like PG does. I find I prefer the VG even if the flavor is a bit more muted.
Check out Johnston Creek for some options.
The only alternative currently available is Johnson Creek's non-PG liquid. That uses a base of vegetable glycerin instead of propylene glycol.
Edit: Posted at the same time, so didn't see your answer Nuck!
In case anyone's wondering WHY I still have the SD as my sig, it's because I got my first ecig in January 2008 but still smoked for 10 months, until I got my first SD. I have other APVs, but also still love and use my SD (with a Bulli on top). I will be forever grateful to Trog for saving my life!
Have you tried a nicotine inhaler? If you don't care about smoke that is a perfect alternative.
Sedansa has new cartridges that use PEG (polyethyl something something). I've tried a couple and they aren't bad. A bit thinner vapor, and it has a bit of an efervescent feeling in the mouth.
Keep in mind if you are new to e-cigs and just getting off the analogs, It may just be your lungs trying to clear out... I had the same thing happen to me last night. i vapor felt like it was giving me trouble swallowing, since everytime i did I had to cough up the excess flem build up that my lungs were trying to get out of my system from the analogs. But today I woke up almost a million times better and have not had a problem with the PG at alll, other than getting thirsty at times, I think the pg works to well to give it up. I havent tried the vg at all, but why change if it is working. I have JC sampler juice as well.. but its pg. Just give it a little longer if you are still trying to convert. You may be getting mixed signals from your body trying to clear everything else up before you start to enjoy your ecig much much more.
EDIT: sry If you are dripping into the npro, I also learned that just one drop is sufficent. Even just 2 drops causes it to leak for some reason. 1 drop does last long enough for me when I drip.. But when I am home I do use my carts and my penstyle most of the time. Good luck! Keep on vaping!!! :-)
Last edited by douknowme12321; 03-11-2009 at 07:47 AM.
If you are using only stock cartridges and still inhaling juice, the battery needs to be charged.
I thought about that, but drugs.com says the nicotine inhaler doesn't deliver nicotine through the lungs: "Most of the nicotine in the product is, however, deposited in the mouth instead of the lungs." The delivery to the lungs is key. It's lung delivery that makes cigarettes and crack more addictive than chewing tobacco and ........
Originally Posted by melissa
OK. I'll try the non-PG stuff from Johnston Creek before I give up and take the NJoy back to Costco.... Thanks for the help, everybody!!!
They were freshly charged - charger turned green.
Originally Posted by jamie
I think the cartridge was overfilled at the factory - it's the only one I've ever opened, so I don't have a frame of reference. There were droplets on the plastic cap, and when I slid it on the atomizer, the metal thing it slides onto got wet.
Actually, I had been off analogs for a week. (I had to quit before the Njoy arrived, I had such a bad cold. I just used snus) In contrast to not smoking, the PG was pretty gross.
Originally Posted by douknowme12321
The only other time I tried an e-cig was at a Smoking Everywhere kiosk when I was still smoking analogs. Even then the PG was pretty gross. I think it just bothers some people.
Thanks for the tip about using a single drop!