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    Al did you do all this pontificating and math when you took up smoking analogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smog View Post
    Yes it's gotta be higher than analogue absorption work it out .You where assuming 100% for both analogue and e-cig weren't you. ?
    Recheck your math .think you will find about 60% for ecig put's it around the
    ball park of strength 14mg/ml to be equal in puffs to a 1mg ABSORBED tobacco cig . It's to late here for me to start doing sums .
    Yes, I was basing the total yield amounts.

    An analog according to that site yields .7 mg / cig (of my brand). BASED ON THAT, I calculated the appropriate juice density to also yield .7 mg / equivalent cig.

    So if your body is absorbing 100% of the YIELD in that study, then you're absorbing 100% of the YIELD of the e-cig equivalent. Does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenez View Post
    Al did you do all this pontificating and math when you took up smoking analogs?
    No, but I pondered math while smoking analogs in college

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    So how many puffs do you get from 1ml?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flitzanu View Post
    Al, do you even have time to vape with all this overdone math and calculation for the exact golden amount of fluid per day to replace exactly one pack of cigs?

    put down the protractor, have a beer and start vaping.

    just sayin.

    while your obsession is...intimidating and impressive, i think as shown by 65 replies so far that no one knows 100% what the answer is, and all of it is going to be guessing.

    what if you spill a drop down the side of your cart? what if some excess is on your fingertips? what if a drop seeps out of the air hole?

    chaos!

    also, given a group of all female, genetically created dinosaurs, they will adapt and reproduce.

    dinosaurs also love nicotine.
    I'm just trying to determine the right amounts. I don't want to increase my nicotine intake and dependence. That's the issue at hand. People vaping the 36 mg density are doing precisely that.

    Is that why you started vaping? To increase the amount of nicotine you're getting? When you did smoke analogs, did you smoke 5 at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    So how many puffs do you get from 1ml?
    9 billion with my nanotech e-cig.

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    i think trying to measure nic intake by # of puffs is close to impossible..way too many uncontrollable variables. If one is concerned about controlling nic intake, they should drip smoke exclusively based on potency of a drop of a particular density of juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptah View Post
    i think trying to measure nic intake by # of puffs is close to impossible..way too many uncontrollable variables. If one is concerned about controlling nic intake, they should drip smoke exclusively based on potency of a drop of a particular density of juice.
    Well, the FDA is starting to look into it and they're going to ask the same questions. You're going to need more of an argument than that to keep them from regulating the hell out of it.

    I'm just being cautious. Too much of anything isn't good for you, but these questions need answers. Dancing around them and guessing isn't going to yield any answers.

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    @Al I agree with you about controlling nic intake. i started vaping to reduce avoid carcinogens and to ultimately taper off nic addiction.

    Carcinogens..check.
    nic addiction..unknown. I've lost track of how much nic I intake on a daily basis. Am I more addicted now than I was when I was back on analogs? Nope. I smoke analogs on weekends and noticed that I need/tolerate much less now. obviously this is subjective

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    It does Al if you assume 100% absorbtion from ecigs .But thats not very likely . Even 60% absorption seems remarkable considering it is closer to 10% with analogues.

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