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    Didn't realize this was an Ego thread. Never owned one. I see what everyone means about the suggestions and what not.... but isn't that what you do when asked? Don't you give a recommendation based on your experience? In some cases it's all you have to go on. I've tried quite a few devices, enough to say I've been there and done that. I would have to say when I recommend something, or advise to stay away, your best bet is to listen. You won't often find me recommending a particular device ( because there are sooo many and they are so similar). You will more likely find me warning of what not to get.

    And I understand the whole subjectivity thing, I really do, but statistics don't lie. If something happens 9 out of 10 times, it's pretty safe to say it will happen again. Am I making sense? Not always the best at explaining.
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    Proceed directly to something with a real battery. You're not doing anyone any favors by telling them which 30 minute device to buy. Too frustrating fighting the batteries=right back to tobacco. eGo family is the perfect gateway to vaping. Mrs. Doctor Vapenstein insisted on something that looked like a cigarette. It took only three weeks before she was using an eGo with a drip tip.

    It's better to steer people right than pander to their misconceptions and tell them to go buy hardware that makes vaping a chore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarsAndBars View Post
    No. No we can't Sir. He (being a noob), thinks he knows what he wants, but doesn't. We all wanted an analog look alike at first.....remember. Wish someone had told me the 'down and dirty' before I wasted all that $. I know, I know, I'm sure someone on the planet actually prefers a crappy e cig, but the odds are stacked against that being the case with any noob. I go with the odds.

    At the end of the day, when your freaking out for a cig, which would you prefer? I think this would apply almost universally.
    +1. I've run into too many locals who have told me they tried vaping with an auto analog sized device and that electronic cigarettes are just a "gimmick" that doesn't work. They continue to smoke due to that one bad experience. If they are just a social smoker, then I will suggest a manual 510. To me that is the best device that is at least similar in size to an analog.

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    Personally I think an Tornego/Riva is a good starting point for a newbie unless they must have something that looks like an analogue. In terms of price/performance they are hard to beat.

    Just on this point though:

    Proceed directly to something with a real battery. You're not doing anyone any favors by telling them which 30 minute device to buy. To frustrating fighting the batteries=right back to tobacco. eGo family is the perfect gateway to vaping. Mrs. Doctor Vapenstein insisted on something that looked like a cigarette. It took only three weeks before she was using an eGo with a drip tip.

    It's better to steer people right than pander to their misconceptions and tell them to go buy hardware that makes vaping a chore.
    When I started vaping there was nothing like an eGo available. The choice basically was a DSE801 or DSE901 or some really poor super mini's. No commercial mods (the Screwdriver was just becoming available). I started with a DSE901 and was quite happy with them at the time, although their limits are quite obvious now
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    I recommend depending on how much that person says they smoke. In the case of the thread which lead to this one, the new person said he was a social smoker and wanted an "analog look-alike." I suggested either a 510, Volcano Magma, or a KR808. Had this person said he was a PAD or more smoker, I would've gone the Riva/eGo route. I try to warn most new people away from the "analog look-alike" because IMO they just aren't any good. Besides, that person had started a similar thread a day or so ago asking almost the same question and got the same responses. Should we all just tell him what he wants to hear, or should we try to guide him down the path to satisfaction?

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    I see two people who actually read and comprehended the issue correctly so far...and this is post #16.

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    My recent favorite was the person who was a mechanic, needed both hands free, something fairly short and auto, people still insisted he really needed a large battery manual
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    Quote Originally Posted by markfm View Post
    My recent favorite was the person who was a mechanic, needed both hands free, something fairly short and auto, people still insisted he really needed a large battery manual
    If that doesn't explain it clearly then all hope is lost...LOL

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    I have and do recommend a 510 for new vapourists as this was the breakthrough e-cig for me. I kinda liked the finding out about egos and mods myself. My wife will only use a 510 with a pcc, as she doesn't like the big batteries, this is her sweet spot.
    I really understand the 'wanting a e-cig to look like a normal fag' and think we forget very quickly what it was like a the start, so I agree, cut the new'bs some slack and help them rather than telling them what to use.
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    I responded to that question and added the same kinds of remarks as you are saying. Not everyone wants to use an EGO or any other strangely-shaped tool to vape. Some people (and I am still one of them)PREFER something that looks like a cigarette. I'm happy there are others who are tired of the push for EGOs when that is not what the person is looking for. Disclosure: I already HAVE an EGO, but I never use it in public.
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