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    Hasn't this been going on forever?

    I see newb posts with "simple" "basic" "easiest" and it seems as if they devolve to dripping with variable voltage mods in no time. Maybe I over state, but I'm not too far off.

    I like to reafirm someone's choice, unless I know, absolutely, that their hardware choice is all wrong for them. I hate getting into threads where there is no thoughts by the OP on what hardware appeals to them. Don't know if they have issues with picking something, or are too lazy to search, or if they did search the info-overload struck them real fast. Either way, it is not comfortable.

    It would be easy to suggest the same PV to everyone. Work with your hands and think you need a short auto, get a BBM! Social smoker that is trying to get away from smoking, but still trying to "fit" in, get a BBM! Want the ease of prefilled cartos, get a BBM and drip!

    Yeah, it would be easy, but I'd feel sleazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapenstein View Post
    Proceed directly to something with a real battery. You're not doing anyone any favors by telling them which 30 minute device to buy. Too frustrating fighting the batteries=right back to tobacco. eGo family is the perfect gateway to vaping. Mrs. Doctor Vapenstein insisted on something that looked like a cigarette. It took only three weeks before she was using an eGo with a drip tip.

    It's better to steer people right than pander to their misconceptions and tell them to go buy hardware that makes vaping a chore.
    OTOH, if the only thing available to me when I started with ecigs 2 years ago had been a big battery like the EGO, I would never have bought the first one. I don't know what kinds of cig-like batteries you might have used that last only 30 minutes, but my VaporKing lasts far longer than that. Some of us still like the look of traditional e cigs and would not be caught dead with a box mod or some of the other strange looking objects others rave about. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherid View Post
    OTOH, if the only thing available to me when I started with ecigs 2 years ago had been a big battery like the EGO, I would never have bought the first one. I don't know what kinds of cig-like batteries you might have used that last only 30 minutes, but my VaporKing lasts far longer than that. Some of us still like the look of traditional e cigs and would not be caught dead with a box mod or some of the other strange looking objects others rave about. To each his own.
    To each his own indeed. Some folks are in the frame of mind that they want to give up as little as possible when they switch. Myself, I just wanted something to hit as near to a smoke as I could get. I recently bought a 901 Riva for a friend who wanted to quit and got an e-mail from him just this morning entitled "Thanks from an ex smoker". Made me feel really good.
    So the fat batt worked for him right out of the gate but everybody's different and I agree with the OP that we should read the original posts and answer the questions that are actually asked.
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    Yes, to each his own. I started out with an eGo from day one. I did research on this forum and had no desire to have a PV that looked like an analog.

    From watching this forum, it seems that those who stay with e-cigs that look like analogs long term are the exception. I think that once you get past the mindset that "I am a smoker using e-cigs to quit" to "I am a vaper who enjoys vaping for what it is", the need for your device to physically resemble an analog cigarette goes away.

    Personally, I would not be caught dead with a cigarette lookalike. I am not a smoker and don't want to look like one. However, if a cig lookalike helps you quit smoking, more power to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xg4bx View Post
    again i just read a newbs question asking for something that looks like an analog because they only smoke socially and both responses were "buy an ego".

    can people stop pushing what they like on all the new users and actually pay attention to what the user is looking for? we may as well just pull down the site and put up a page that merely says "buy an ego. it doesn't matter what you want".

    sorry if i'm beating a dead horse but come on, what use would somebody who wants an analog look-alike for when they smoke socially have with an ego? not everything is one size fits all.
    One of the original post suggesting an Ego was from me. What the OP failed to mention, and may not have read was that I also suggested a KR808 if the person was set on something that looked like a real cig. Those suggestions come from my experience as a newb looking for the best bang for the buck. And I stand by my suggestions.

    I am still a newb myself and I went through the "Looks like an analog" phase at first. I spent over $100 buying stuff that looks like analogs only to find out that I really prefer my Riva because it is more convenient to not charge batteries all day. I wish I had listened to people who suggested the Ego or Riva as my first PV and I was just sharing my opinion.

    That is what this forum is for and no one here that I have encountered pushes an opinion or suggestion that they think is a bad idea. I understand where the OP of this thread is coming from but in the end it is up to each newb to buy what they want. Those of us that have been there and done that will share our experiences. The majority of those experiences that I have seen would dictate that a bigger battery is a better choice from the start regardless of previous smoking style or frequency.

    We are all here trying to help. Calling out people for suggesting what has worked for them will just cut down on the number of people that are willing to help.

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    I'm knee deep in eGo land right now. I'm using the Janty eGo, the Inferno, the T-Rex and the PigCig...

    I'm loving all of them...because they are all so similar.

    I'm testing all these for reviews...but honestly...none of these are units are good to start out vaping on. I don't care if they are awesome.

    Does anyone remember what their mindset was when they first started vaping? Mine was "I need to find something that looks and feels like a cigarette but isn't a cigarette and won't kill me"

    Of course...that lead to trying other products...but I really find it stupid that everyone jumps into the newb forum and act like the solution for all vapers is an eGo.

    it's not...we are hobbiest...we try pretty much everything out there...but if we want "our" industry to become mainstream...we aren't going to get there by recommending an eGo to every single person just looking to get off of Analogs.

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    I don't know what to really say here, you all have far more experience than myself.

    However, if someone had recommended an eGo to me when I first started vaping, I probably would've failed miserably. I think the main reason I am doing so well with my Joye 510...is that it LOOKS and sorta FEELS like an analog...without being an analog. Actually I can't say that LOL my two 510's are blue and pink respectively, and the cartridge markers I use are all pastel colors! LOL Very girlie.

    But it is very very true, to each his/her own, and I may change at a later date...but so far the 510 has not failed me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense Field View Post
    Of course...that lead to trying other products...but I really find it stupid that everyone jumps into the newb forum and act like the solution for all vapers is an eGo.

    it's not...we are hobbiest...we try pretty much everything out there...but if we want "our" industry to become mainstream...we aren't going to get there by recommending an eGo to every single person just looking to get off of Analogs.
    The choir singing in the background while reading that post is beautiful. Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself.

    TypeO, don't feel "Called out" because recommending an 808 and sidenoting about the eGo is how it would be done right. Stress info on what they asked for, then add other notes.

    For others who don't seem to get it that eGo is not a one-size-fits-all:

    Stop sending people asking for Chinese food to Taco Bell.
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    It seems people are getting stuck on the newb thing here and thinking every new person who posts "that question" is clueless to what they really want. It's not always just new people seeking something "cigarette sized" or "cigarette-like". There are advantages to the small automatics. Just because you find no use for them does not mean they're useless to someone else.

    Here, I'm going to start off a hypothetical, newb or non-newb, "what ecig is best for" round of questions as an example;

    What's the best ecig to use while riding a Harley?
    What's the best ecig to use while working on a car?
    What's the best ecig to use while welding [whatever]?
    I lost my hands in a combine accident. Whats the best ecig for me?

    Ya, that last one sounds completely ridiculous but I'll bet my 5v box mod there would be at LEAST one "buy an eGo!" answer to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hygroscopic View Post
    TypeO, don't feel "Called out" because recommending an 808 and sidenoting about the eGo is how it would be done right. Stress info on what they asked for, then add other notes.
    +1 on this.

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