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Old 06-23-2008, 10:09 AM   #1
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Default Smoke-Break Liquid Cigarette (now testing)

Wisconsin inventor creates smokeless cigarette
Smoke-Break tastes like a 'melted cherry popsicle with a kick'
http://tinyurl.com/4wn584

Taking, and making, a Smoke Break
West Allis man's quit-smoking product enters testing stage
http://www.westallisnow.com/story/index.aspx?id=724534

Milwaukee-Area Doctors Begin Clinical Trial Of 'Liquid Cigarette'
http://www.wisn.com/health/15113730/detail.html
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Thanks for posting the links.

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If the government approves Smoke-Break, it could be on the market by the end of this year at about the same price you're paying for a pack of cigarette's today,
Will have to keep watching to see if it will be approved.
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It hasn't got a chance. Zero. Zilch. Hate to be a killjoy, but this is the same kind of thing as nicotine water and nicotine lollipops. It's too much like candy. It will never be allowed. :twisted:
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If the FDA is consistent, this will be denied entry to the marketplace, no matter what the trials conclude. Too attractive to children.

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Smoke-Break is a clear plastic tube that contains a cherry tasting gel spiked with nicotine that the user swallows.
But that quote puts me off. Swallowing nicotine is the least effective use of the drug. Digestion and absorption just don't work well. Even smokeless users know to absorb nicotine through the mouth for quicker delivery than swallowing tobacco! Ditto for nasal snuff users.

I experimented with putting very fine nasal snuff powder (about a teaspoonfull) in a milkshake for awhile. Got no kick, so I stopped. No other effects. Just .. nothing at all.
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It's too much like candy. It will never be allowed.
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Too attractive to children.
I'm sure Big Pharma and the FDA can resolve this.

Wisconsin inventor creates smokeless cigarette
Smoke-Break tastes like 'lutefisk with a kick'

http://tinyurl.com/4wn584
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Eeeeewwwww. :P
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I think it's strange that so many folks seem to think that by replacing the nicotine, folks can quit smoking. That may be true for some folks, but I am at least as addicted to the act of smoking as I am the nicotine itself. I'm much more confident in my ability to slowly ween myself off nic than the act of smoking. Sure I get grumping if I don't have nic, but I get freeaked out and want to cry if I can't smoke. If the fda or big pharma wants to market a product that will truely get folks off smoking ciggerettes then they are going to have to look at something that truly replicates the act of smoking. Either that or figure out a why to erase the memory of ever having smoked from my brain (now thats scary)
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but I get freeaked out and want to cry if I can't smoke.
That's almost TMI. hehehehe

Really, I appreciate your honesty. Mostly I get angry and want to pound someone. :twisted:

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I think it's strange that so many folks seem to think that by replacing the nicotine, folks can quit smoking. That may be true for some folks, but I am at least as addicted to the act of smoking as I am the nicotine itself. I'm much more confident in my ability to slowly ween myself off nic than the act of smoking.
There's a lot of truth to that or we wouldn't be here. Most smokers know it isn't so clearcut. There are many different factors to smoking ciggies. Different products can work on different aspects of the addiction and the numerous related habits.

I lost my terror of quitting smoking by trying NRT products. Losing that hyperfear set me up nicely for actually quitting ciggies, which I did within hours of getting my first ecig. Had I not gone through that process I may have smoked and used ecigs together for some time, which many posters are doing.

Some cessation folks, especially harm reduction proponents, are now studying and promoting combination therapy and it does have higher success rates, at least early on. Why not try them all, throw everything and anything at it, see what sticks? It's a powerful addiction w/powerful habits, so attack it with a full arsenal. That's how I've been looking at it.
(I'm speaking of NRT, not meds.)

Pharma is also considering higher NRT nic - I recently read about a test of 35mg patches (current max is 21mg).

Besides safety, what concerns me about ecigs right now is all the extra habits added because of the unreliability - it's very crack-like with all the putzing around we do.
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We are so alike in "throwing the book" at our habit/addiction. I use whatever I want at the moment. I can almost guarantee you that I'd not stay off cigarettes with JUST e-smoking. Or just snus. Or just Stonewall. Or just a patch or gum or nasal spray. I need it ALL. I need it when I feel the need for it.

And thank goodness someone is paying attention to the minor detail that Big Pharma's restricted amounts of nicotine were grossly insufficient to satisfy nicotine addicts in the throes of withdrawal. A much stronger patch might get some through the night without waking up with the world's strongest desire for a smoke.

Before e-smoking, I used a small plastic quit-smoking cigarette. I chewed up so many that my wife ended up buying all of them from every drugstore in town. I chewed the ends off, cut a new squared-off end with scissors, then chewed some more. Broke a front tooth twice while chewing the plastic. But that little plastic ciggie was essential to replace the real cigarette I'd always had between my fingers, or dangling from my lips, or clamped between my teeth.

E-smoking is a real upgrade from that chewed-up piece of plastic. Better than the toothpicks I always carried in a special Old West toothpick holder bought in an antique store. Now I see vapor. I taste coffee and tobacco flavor. I feel a hit in my throat. Good enough? No. But I sure don't want to lose this resource for the times that I need it.
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