Just saw this

[Boomer]

Hi guys if i am honest i have not really read any posts in this section of the forum but i am going to start working my way through some now.

I just saw this article and im sure most of you already know what it says, the one thing that did shock me was that it says nicotine is not toxic in it's pure form. I thought it was toxic and thats why we have all these labels on our e-juices etc. If it is not toxic in it's pure form why do we have all the labels? Or what we buy maybe is different somehow to pure nicotine? Anyway here is the article, i apologise if it has already been posted or old news to you guys which i suspect it is

Nicotine Fact - Nicotine Is Good For You

Cheers Lee.

[esmok-e]

They need to provide sources... this is a traffic magnet for google ads.

[TropicalBob]

Nicotine simply has a bad reputation because it is consumed in cigarette smoking, however in its pure form it is safe and non toxic.

The "author" of this horrendously inaccurate piece needs to do some serious research on nicotine. What an ignorant statement. Do not believe it, people. Do your own research. For good information, use ScienceDaily and search "nicotine".

This is an example of the "it's true 'cause I read it on the Internet" mentality.

[LaceyUnderall]

While I agree that this article lacks some merit due to no links provided, it brings up a little research I did just yesterday regarding flavorings and essential oils.

With essential oils there are different grades. Grade A, Grade B, Grade C and Grade D. Now, I am posting a link to where this information started for me and I did follow up with some more research on this to find that these statements due in fact appear to be true. I have more, but they really take some combing so if anyone is interested in some boring reading... ask away.

Grade A essential oils are the purest and are also termed "Therapeutic Grade". These are usually organic and have had very little chemical intervention. Grade B essential oils are termed "Food Grade". These are not the purest form because they contain synthetics, pesticides etc required by the FDA for use in foods. They are "less organic" in a way.

THERAPEUTIC GRADE ESSENTIAL OILS
What Makes Essential Oils Therapeutic Grade?

Also, in a discussion with Dr. Mintz, an anti ecigger and anti-smoking pro pharm nicotine products rep, he took the stand point that I should be using nicotine supplied by the pharmaceuticals that is manufactured vs nicotine that is pulled from the plant by means of soaking and boiling. As a "greenie" I have a hard time following this logic. To me, less manufactured = better for you in many cases and nicotine falls into that category for me.

It is my understanding that the nicotine provided to us via our eliquids has been soaked and heated in the pg/vg and then drained, leaving only the nicotine which is easily pulled from the tobacco in this method. To me, this seems far more in touch with the "earth" than a lab concocting a brew of synthetic nicotine.

This may be a far leap... I am still in the early investigation... but it is interesting.

[esmok-e]

The nicotine would probably have to be like the Nicotrol product... and not the "Mother Liquid" type used to spray cigarettes and make e-liqs.

[LaceyUnderall]

Originally Posted by esmok-e

The nicotine would probably have to be like the Nicotrol product... and not the "Mother Liquid" type used to spray cigarettes and make e-liqs.

Alchem International Manufacturer & Exporter of Nicotine USP

This is just how one manufacturer of pharmaceutical grade nicotine gets their nicotine from the plant. WOW!

What's the "mother liquid"? Tell me more.

[~kerri]

the links to the essential oil info go to a company (Young Living) that is promoting it's own interest rather than giving unbiased information.
Among the professionals in the cosmetic, perfume, and aromatherapy industry that I know, said company is not looked upon as providing either Quality oils or information.

[LaceyUnderall]

Originally Posted by ~kerri

the links to the essential oil info go to a company (Young Living) that is promoting it's own interest rather than giving unbiased information.
Among the professionals in the cosmetic, perfume, and aromatherapy industry that I know, said company is not looked upon as providing either Quality oils or information.

Thank you. That is good to know.

That is only where my research started. It has spun off from there and I have found several more who make these claims... But is always good to note when a source is in-fact crap.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

This is an example of the "it's true 'cause I read it on the Internet" mentality.

I don't think anybody believed it bob, in fact i said in my post when i found it, if thats the case why do we have the labels on the e-juice. When i posted this i wanted peoples opinions like yourself on it, i thought it did not make sense from the beginning.

Another thing i remember hearing many years ago is the exact opposite and that is "A drop of pure nicotine is enough to kill a horse" Is there any truth in that?

What i know about nicotine is very very sketchy but now i have the choice to smoke it with a lot less of other chemicals i am going to start researching and learning all i can about it.

Cheers Lee.

[drewterry]

If nicotine is so harmful why dont people die from eating too many tomatoes or green peppers or potatoes or eggplant? They all have nicotine alkaloids in them.