Apple method nicotine extraction experiment #0001

[accordeur]

Well I just tried it and you can really taste the tobacco!!! Don't know how much nicotine, but I think there is some cause I can feel it.

By the way I filtered the smoke juice using 2 coffee filters stacked on top of 3 plys of white cotton material. I just cut-up an old t-shirt, washed it and rinsed it completely. Next time I will let the particulates sink to the bottom for a few days before adding the PG. I guess I can say I am now making my own smoke juice.

[TropicalBob]

Congratulations! About all I can contribute further is that coarser tobacco is probably the best base tobacco. Someone somewhere had suggesting brewing the tobacco just like coffee. Grind it up, filter hot water through it and collect the liquid. I didn't want to do that, but tried very fine nasal snuff for my first batch. It's almost like dust. And it was a flop. That stuff is so small that filtering was just impossible. I tried multiple times. The remaining batches have been with pipe tobacco, about as coarse as we can buy. It was much easier to filter out the tobacco particles.

I'm thinking if I could get a tobacco leaf ... perfect. Simmer leaf in water and voila!

[dnakr]

Congrats. Sounds like you did good. With my experiments I used chewing tobacco. Not to difficult to filter - just a pain because it filters so slow. Next time I will try TB's suggestion.

[RatInDaHat]

TB,

I know you've mentioned Vegetable Glycerin as a base for the finished liquids. Where are you finding it? i looked at whole foods and wild oats, but think i didn't know where to look and the staff was no help at all.

I'm gonna run down to the vitamin/health store in town and see what i can find.

Thanks,
-Dusty-

[TropicalBob]

I had to ask a clerk for it. Normally, he said, they stock it, but were out that day. I got it within 4 days. It's the same as the image someone posted from Amazon.com.

[leaford]

I am wondering about chemical additives. If you're using processed tobacco, won't it be chock filled with synthetic "goodness"? Won't that be leeching out along with the nicotine? And into the apple?

[TropicalBob]

Depends on the tobacco source. I've settled on inexpensive burleys for my cooking. Those are pure as the driven snow. I use Carter Hall now, but Prince Albert would do fine. Avoid any "aromatic" blends like Sail or Cherry Blend or even Mixture#79, as it will have gooey additives. Earlier, I used a bit of Frog Morton, but it's WAY too expensive to use for cooking. Carter Hall is $2.39 a pouch -- which is enough for several cooking experiments.

Trivia: Brands like Carter Hall, Half&Half and Prince Albert are called "codger burleys," 'cause our grandfathers smoked them! Also called "drugstore tobaccos" 'cause you can buy them anywhere. If I wanted to spend a little more, I'd try pure Louisiana Perique, which is grown exclusively on a few acres in Louisiana and has about the highest nicotine hit of any pipe tobacco. It's never smoked by itself, but is blended with sweet Virginias, latakia and Balkan tobaccos. It can be bought for home mixing, however. More expensive than other tobaccos, but talk about maximum nicotine! It's the only tobacco I know of that is made into liquor, in England. Terribly expensive and almost always sold out.

[Kibey]

I am wondering about chemical additives. If you're using processed tobacco, won't it be chock filled with synthetic "goodness"? Won't that be leeching out along with the nicotine? And into the apple?

The tobacco I'm using is very cheap locally grown stuff. So cheap they can't afford to put additives into it.
But I do wonder about the other couple thousand naturally occurring chemicals already in tobacco.
Unfortunately I don't know where else I can get nicotine from, apart from pesticides and I really don't like the idea of using that.

[TropicalBob]

Wonder, but don't worry about your tobacco. After all, there are a few thousand chemicals, many hazardous, in the air we're breathing now. In the food we'll eat today. We have a filthy world, do we not?

It's a dirty life, but somebody's got to live it.

[accordeur]

My sister -in-law works for Health Canada in the department that offers all the programs to quit smoking. She tells me that Canadian tobacco companies DO NOT add anything to their tobacco, it's an urban legend. All the toxic chemicals that come with tobacco are when you burn it. The combustion is what is bad. I used "Drum" tobacco for my juice and I can really taste it when I add it to PG. I am very confident that there is no danger of chemicals because no combustion occurred. Just thought I would add this info. I know that one store here carries leaf tobacco, so that will be my next experiment. Good luck to all.