Nicotine too high?

[Kate]

I've heard of questions about nicotine measurements before but there's no evidence because it's not something that's easy to measure.

It's more common for people to say that they think there is less nicotine than they expect.

It's not impossible that you got a mislabelled bottle, that's happened with flavours. It's even possible that a sample bottle got mixed into a batch or the batch was all wrongly dosed.

[ISAWHIM]

Originally Posted by seminolewind

This morning, I tried the same questionable juice and had the same thing happen, in fact right now.
My original question was did anyone else feel it happened to them? I just wanted to get an idea of how many times this might happen. I really want looking to point blame at anyone.

Every person who has ever OD'ed has felt that happen to them. Stop using that bottle. That is not a sign of "Working", that is a sign of, "You are getting a dose that is close to the poison level." (You confirmed that an equal dose, from the same location, did not have that effect. Obviously, this is NOT that same dose as the bottle indicates.)

The missing label... "Discontinue use if you detect abnormal heart conditions, such as racing, stopping, or chest-pains. Consult a doctor if conditions continue or worsen." (That is a standard "Stimulant warning". This is not your standard stimulant, this is a sign of pre-poisoning levels.)

Please read about nicotine poisoning...
Acute nicotine toxicity

Don't listen to anyone who tells you, "Trust me, it is safe", after you directly indicated "Medical problems". (Heart racing is a medical problem, obviously caused by the e-juice which you indicated as the trigger. You would not continue to drink coffee or expresso, if it had the same effect, and any doctor would tell you the same.)

Go back to analogs until you get a new bottle in. Seriously, a few days more of smoking analogs will not kill you, but that juice might.

It is not difficult to prove... just send a sample in to the FDA, after you call them for an appropriate shipment package. (The USPS does not allow poisons to be shipped through normal packages in the federal mail. They will send you a special bio-hazard/toxic package for shipment, which must be shipped directly from a carrier office. The packages have special precautions that normal delivery agents do not take into account. I have to deal with this for tattooing also, and many of the chemicals I purchase.)

[Sun Vaporer]

Wrong thread---Sun

[vaporaddict]

Originally Posted by ISAWHIM

Every person who has ever OD'ed has felt that happen to them. Stop using that bottle. That is not a sign of "Working", that is a sign of, "You are getting a dose that is close to the poison level." (You confirmed that an equal dose, from the same location, did not have that effect. Obviously, this is NOT that same dose as the bottle indicates.)

The missing label... "Discontinue use if you detect abnormal heart conditions, such as racing, stopping, or chest-pains. Consult a doctor if conditions continue or worsen." (That is a standard "Stimulant warning". This is not your standard stimulant, this is a sign of pre-poisoning levels.)



Don't listen to anyone who tells you, "Trust me, it is safe", after you directly indicated "Medical problems". (Heart racing is a medical problem, obviously caused by the e-juice which you indicated as the trigger. You would not continue to drink coffee or expresso, if it had the same effect, and any doctor would tell you the same.)

Go back to analogs until you get a new bottle in. Seriously, a few days more of smoking analogs will not kill you, but that juice might.

It is not difficult to prove... just send a sample in to the FDA, after you call them for an appropriate shipment package. (The USPS does not allow poisons to be shipped through normal packages in the federal mail. They will send you a special bio-hazard/toxic package for shipment, which must be shipped directly from a carrier office. The packages have special precautions that normal delivery agents do not take into account. I have to deal with this for tattooing also, and many of the chemicals I purchase.)

Thanks for posting this....I recently had a similar experience as the original poster, I didn't want to believe it was the juice because I've read so many positive threads about ecigs and juice suppliers. I did exactly as you stated and switched back to analogs and the heart racing and light headedness went a way after 2 days. We are trying save our lives with a smoking alternative yet it seems without some form of regulation or stricter testing standards we may end our lives a little faster.

[tpboles]

Originally Posted by ISAWHIM

Every person who has ever OD'ed has felt that happen to them. Stop using that bottle. That is not a sign of "Working", that is a sign of, "You are getting a dose that is close to the poison level." (You confirmed that an equal dose, from the same location, did not have that effect. Obviously, this is NOT that same dose as the bottle indicates.)

The missing label... "Discontinue use if you detect abnormal heart conditions, such as racing, stopping, or chest-pains. Consult a doctor if conditions continue or worsen." (That is a standard "Stimulant warning". This is not your standard stimulant, this is a sign of pre-poisoning levels.)

Please read about nicotine poisoning...
Acute nicotine toxicity

Don't listen to anyone who tells you, "Trust me, it is safe", after you directly indicated "Medical problems". (Heart racing is a medical problem, obviously caused by the e-juice which you indicated as the trigger. You would not continue to drink coffee or expresso, if it had the same effect, and any doctor would tell you the same.

Go back to analogs until you get a new bottle in. Seriously, a few days more of smoking analogs will not kill you, but that juice might.

It is not difficult to prove... just send a sample in to the FDA, after you call them for an appropriate shipment package. (The USPS does not allow poisons to be shipped through normal packages in the federal mail. They will send you a special bio-hazard/toxic package for shipment, which must be shipped directly from a carrier office. The packages have special precautions that normal delivery agents do not take into account. I have to deal with this for tattooing also, and many of the chemicals I purchase.)

You forgot to mention putting it in a double locked fire proof safe!

Seriously had a cup of strong black coffee the other day. Made me feel a bit jittery and nervous (true story, don't drink much coffee). Reckon I should send that to the fda to make sure it was only coffee that I was consuming? Your fear-mongering is out of control in my opinion. Newbies (which you are) shouldn't be told to send items to the fda, or rush to the hospital your dying! If you would read the forum a little you would see where other people have ask about the same things (headaches, heart racing,ect) and they are all still with us today. Trust me I am sure this person is okay and still alive. I'm not saying this isn't signs of too much nic, but no need to go to the extremes posted here. For the people with fears remember over 2 years of e-cig use has netted zero deaths and very few side effects. 1 year of analog use will net you around 400,000 deaths. (yeah ecigs are new, yada, yada, yada)

Again, I think that sellers should be a bit more responsible with labeling, ect., but fear-mongering statements like this will never help our cause!

To the OP, it could be entirely the case that your bottle was mis-labeled. I would sit the bottle to the side and maybe ask the supplier for your money back or swap for another bottle.

Btw - I have had mild nic od myself. Same effects mentioned (took in too much 36mg at one sitting). I am fine and now make sure to not vape as much if I use 36mg. Regardless, it still wasn't as bad as the first analog I smoked. I can remember almost turning green over that.

[RatInDaHat]

I would say that sending it to the FDA would not help anybody at this point.

Get a hold of the supplier you bought from and get a new bottle. Probably just too high on the nic. It happens. This isn't a perfect system yet.

I remember smoking analogs. One time i got a carton of menthols that were all full flavors. didn't take notice at first until i realized they tasted way off. Same concept, different product.

[ZambucaLu]

Originally Posted by ISAWHIM

It is not difficult to prove... just send a sample in to the FDA, after you call them for an appropriate shipment package.

Yeh and while you're at it, why not just find out the name of the judge who might be deciding on a possible ban and send him a sample too. This really ought to help our cause!

Lu

[TropicalBob]

LOL. We oldtimers all thought the same thing, didn't we? You want a ban? You want a reason to ban? Send that sample to the FDA with your concerns ....

[seminolewind]

LOL, Thanks for all the "send it to the FDA jokes"!!! I was rolling on the floor laughing my a** off.

I think the bottle was mislabeled and I'm sure that the seller will gladly replacement. I was just curious as to if mislabeled juice happens alot or rarely. (OH, sorry, gotta go-phone call-must be the FDA returning my call!)

[DaDuke]

Originally Posted by Kate

It's not impossible that you got a mislabelled bottle, that's happened with flavours. It's even possible that a sample bottle got mixed into a batch or the batch was all wrongly dosed.

My wife got 2 prescriptions with switched labels. Luckily one was liquid and one tablet so it was easy to spot... this time. As with anything dangerous including prescriptions one must take due caution. Sh?t happens, even with highly regulated pharmacies.