Pure nicotine? Where does the nicotine come from?

[GreySaber]

Originally Posted by EVapor

So, IMHO, the whole 24 or 36 mg business has nothing to do with how much nicotine you are actually getting.

One the side note, anyone tried rubbing the e-liquid onto your gums?

Well, It sometimes makes my heart race when I get it on my hands and don't wash. (LEt that be a lesson kids, you spill E-jiuce in your hands, wash it the heck off.)

[edlogic]

Originally Posted by palermo45

Hello,

I can get you pharmaceutical grade liquid nicotine by the liter. Drop me a direct line and I can help you out if you are interested.

thanks a lot ->
i would be interested in that - i sent you a pm

[Surf Monkey]

EVapor: we know that studies seem to indicate that e-cigarettes only deliver about 10% of the nicotine that traditional cigarettes do per drag, based on tests with 16mg fluid. If that's the case, one would be fairly safe in assuming that 36mg fluid would deliver something in the range of 20% of a traditional cigarette per drag. The idea that they're "nothing more than theater props" appears flatly wrong. They don't get as much nicotine into the blood as quickly as cigarettes do, but they do deliver nicotine. Furthermore, it appears that nicotine suspended in PG or VG vapor is absorbed more through the mucous membranes in the mouth, throat and sinus cavities than through the lungs, so technique probably plays a role too. If you smoke an e-cigarette exactly like a traditional cigarette, you'll get a lot less nicotine just by the sheer mechanics of how the drug is absorbed. But if you roll the vapor around in your mouth, like you'd smoke a cigar, you're likely to get more nicotine than just sucking it directly into your lungs.

The point here is that we don't really know exactly what the chemical action is and we don't know how vaping technique, frequency of drags and so forth play into it. One thing we DO know is that the cigarette companies put additives in cigarettes to increase the PH of the smoke, thereby causing nicotine to get into the blood scream more efficiently and more quickly. Personally, I'd rather take in less nicotine AND less ammonia, benzene and god knows what else.

Before anyone passes judgment on e-cigarettes we need to see more research. Saying they're useless is just as irresponsible as saying that they're just as harmful as smoking traditional cigarettes. The evidence from the many users on this board shows practically unequivocally that nicotine is being delivered by e-cigarettes in quantities that make it a viable replacement therapy for traditional smoking.

[Surf Monkey]

Originally Posted by edlogic

thanks a lot ->
i would be interested in that - i sent you a pm

Be aware that pure nicotine is DEADLY poison. It can and will kill you in relatively small quantities. It's not to be trifled with. If you don't have experience handling extremely toxic materials, you shouldn't even be considering handing pure nicotine. Not only would it be a horrible shame if you (or anyone else here) killed themselves by getting a drop of pure nicotine in their systems (yes, a single small drop of high concentration nicotine can and will kill you), but it would set our cause back dramatically.

[edlogic]

roger that -

i have experience with nicotine poisoning - about 30 years ago when i was in my twenties - working on the railroad - chewing tobacco - i spit upon an earthworm by chance

it squirmed around for about 20 seconds and died
works on ants too

[DarkriftX]

Originally Posted by edlogic

roger that -

i have experience with nicotine poisoning - about 30 years ago when i was in my twenties - working on the railroad - chewing tobacco - i spit upon an earthworm by chance

it squirmed around for about 20 seconds and died
works on ants too

LOL! I had to re-read this twice to actually get what you were saying. I guess to a point that almost counts as experience.

I personally seem to have a rather high tolerance for nic. I have on multiple occasions placed a nic patch on an arm, forgotten about it and placed another on my back or other arm. One of these times I then forgot about both of them and went out to smoke. That particular time I was working at an ER and smoking with some of the nurses who then noticed the patch on my arm and made a comment about nic poisoning which made me remember the other one. I do however think that my actual craving for nicotine is probably lower than most and will probably do fine with the low stuff.

[jcarcopo]

If you are still able to get pharma grade nicotine please contact me. I added you to my contacts.

Thanks again

Jonathan jcarcopo@live.com
919-229-9805

Originally Posted by palermo45

Hello,

I can get you pharmaceutical grade liquid nicotine by the liter. Drop me a direct line and I can help you out if you are interested.

[Dolly]

Originally Posted by kinabaloo

Just drop this in is as I've not seen the nicotine content of juice expressed as a percentage before:

A 24mg juice (x high) means 24mg/g (which is about 24mg/ml).

That is, 24/1000 or 2.4% (w/w)

Hence, a 10mg juice would be 1% nicotine (w/w) and a 5mg would be 0.5%.

I love this...thank you for posting! I love learning the intricacies of items like this. What's your sauce?

[whistlrr]

Originally Posted by Surf Monkey

[...]Furthermore, it appears that nicotine suspended in PG or VG vapor is absorbed more through the mucous membranes in the mouth, throat and sinus cavities than through the lungs, so technique probably plays a role too. If you smoke an e-cigarette exactly like a traditional cigarette, you'll get a lot less nicotine just by the sheer mechanics of how the drug is absorbed. But if you roll the vapor around in your mouth, like you'd smoke a cigar, you're likely to get more nicotine than just sucking it directly into your lungs.

I can attest to this. I have to get all the mucous membranes involved that I can - all of 'em, nasal and all .. and I'm finally finally just getting to get to where just vaping nearly normally (heh) with 'french inhales' are starting to be enough (instead of needing to do my goofy nostril vaping method so much which I am starting to need and to do less and less) but I can tell I'm always going to have to have vape+nose involved somehow.

I know I am not the only one who, while as an analog cigarette smoker, at some point or another tried analog pipes and cigars and found them completely unsatisfying. Just holding some smoke in my mouth never got it for me either. I'm wondering for how many of us who are really struggling now to get what we need out of e-cigs this also holds true for (I mean that they also never any got satisfaction from pipes and cigars either).

I think there's a very good reason people who were cigarette smokers and not pipe and cigar smokers were cigarette smokers instead, you know?

Not trying to vape like you'd smoke an analog is really a tall order in a way when you think about it.

The whole 'just mouth vape like its a cigar' leaves me just as frustrated as an actual cigar would.. and I never french inhaled with analog cigarettes (I was capable of it it was something I learned to do as a kid sitting around with other kids shortly after starting to smoke but it was just for trick's sake and also unsatisfying and actually a bit irritating when done with a cigarette) but its an alteration on using on an e-cig that I can do and is necessary and about as close as I can come now to the sensation of smoking (which included sending the smoke all through my system and back out my nose -- something I'm not able to do with an e-cig because no matter how much vapor I make it, doesn't exist long enough to make it that far)

[IANAN]

Originally Posted by dumwaldo

Google is your friend. this was the top result I got searching for "extracting nicotine from tobacco leaves".

How can I EXTRACT NICOTINE from PLANTS OR TOBACCO ? - Yahoo! Answers

DW

Do not use the method with the Benzene/Sulfuric acid.... Benzene in of itself is highly carcinogenic....