mark-up on e-juice

[tims]

I know how to get a easy 294 mg of pure nic for $35, how much PG 24 mg nic would that make ???

[OutWest]

Originally Posted by tims

I know how to get a easy 294 mg of pure nic for $35, how much PG 24 mg nic would that make ???

24mg eliquid means that there is 24 milligrams for every 1 gram of PG, and 1 gram of PG is just over 1 ml (according to Mass, Weight, Density or Specific Gravity of Liquids 1 ml weighs 0.96527 grams, which in turn means that 1 gram of PG is approx. 1.0359795704828700778020657432635 mls)

The tricky part is that you need a way to safely handle the pure nic because in its pure form it's highly toxic (one bit on your skin can kill ya). You'd have to have a proper gloved box and other industrial lab equipment to not only handle it but to thoroughly and evenly mix it as well. And, you'd have to avoid transferrance of the pure from out of the box (ie: get a speck outside of mixing container and then when remove breathe it in or get that speck on you and youre dead). Essentially you need a proper hazmat lab to do it.

[radiokaos]

Does it seem like all newbie tries to score pure Nic every couple of weeks.

Most places will not sell to you unless you are a University, or Chemical Lab.

PLEASE DON"T BE STUPID.

Guys please do us all a favor and stay away from that stuff. Not only will it kill you. But before hand you could have the police knocking on your door thinking you might be a terrorist. Pure and high levels like that are left for the professional. Not some back yard setup. There are also local laws that you could be breaking when messing with this stuff. People have mentioned this before, so let me get my popcorn since this should be a fun response.

[OutWest]

Originally Posted by radiokaos

Does it seem like all newbie tries to score pure Nic every couple of weeks.

Most places will not sell to you unless you are a University, or Chemical Lab.

PLEASE DON"T BE STUPID.

Guys please do us all a favor and stay away from that stuff. Not only will it kill you. But before hand you could have the police knocking on your door thinking you might be a terrorist. Pure and high levels like that are left for the professional. Not some back yard setup. There are also local laws that you could be breaking when messing with this stuff. People have mentioned this before, so let me get my popcorn since this should be a fun response.

agreed. Seems to be getting more and more frequent. And, eliquid is pretty darn cheap already; it's not worth risking your life and the lives of those around you in order to save a few dollars. What's your own life worth? Heck, in that one post (294mg for $35) that sorts out to costing $35 for 12.69 ml of 24mg liquid. And that's not counting the cost of the PG, much less the lab equipment. So in that particular case it's way higher than just buying it already mixed up.

[squirelsnut]

Here is a simple solution to this thread
1. this was posted for the specific reason of saying its so cheap to make the stuff b/c of what he spent, then why is the stuff so expensive at some places.
2. most places get there stuff from other people, they dont make it themselves and then sell i by cutting in half and dilluting and buying in bulk.
3. your best way to save a little money is to buy direct from manufacturer or in large quantities, or do research on cheap suppliers e.i. RD and others are 10ml for $3 or 30ml for $10
4. if you want to do something your self to save a quick buck, then buy the highest concentration, e.i. 36mg nicquid and if you have say 30ml than just add 30ml pg and it would cut it down to 18mg and you would have 60ml. PLEASE be carefull when you are mixing though.

and if i'm incorrect on any of my points, please let me know.

[OutWest]

Originally Posted by squirelsnut

Here is a simple solution to this thread
1. this was posted for the specific reason of saying its so cheap to make the stuff b/c of what he spent, then why is the stuff so expensive at some places.
2. most places get there stuff from other people, they dont make it themselves and then sell i by cutting in half and dilluting and buying in bulk.
3. your best way to save a little money is to buy direct from manufacturer or in large quantities, or do research on cheap suppliers e.i. RD and others are 10ml for $3 or 30ml for $10
4. if you want to do something your self to save a quick buck, then buy the highest concentration, e.i. 36mg nicquid and if you have say 30ml than just add 30ml pg and it would cut it down to 18mg and you would have 60ml. PLEASE be carefull when you are mixing though.

and if i'm incorrect on any of my points, please let me know.

In regards to #2 - from what I've seen, most sellers are sticking to factory sealed bottles. But your experience may, of course, be different.

[ramblingrose]

Originally Posted by radiokaos

PLEASE DON"T BE STUPID.

Guys please do us all a favor and stay away from that stuff. Not only will it kill you. But before hand you could have the police knocking on your door thinking you might be a terrorist. Pure and high levels like that are left for the professional. Not some back yard setup. There are also local laws that you could be breaking when messing with this stuff. People have mentioned this before, so let me get my popcorn since this should be a fun response.

PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID. Yes, that's the perfect response.

Safety issued have been well covered; I'll just add one more point: If you think its a problem getting supplies in the country now, imagine what will happen after the inevitable accident. It will only take one misadventure for the media, the antis and government to be all over e-cigs as the worst invention of the century.

Personally, I cringe every time I see people posting about the possibility. Beyond the safety issues, don't forget that we're trying to gain acceptance, not notoriety. An anti can easily come into the forum, read these posts and (rightfully) use them as strong fuel to the arguments against e-cigs. Proponents of our hobby might rethink their view, as well.

Noobs, PLEASE get the thought of saving by making your own nicLiquid out of your heads.

[TropicalBob]

Bravo, RamlingRose, and never have times been as critical for e-smoking as they are RIGHT NOW. Imagine the impact of a front page story in the Washington Post Monday morning that some idiot managed to get pure nicotine -- a terrorists wet dream -- and then killed himself and his family trying to make e-liquid for his e-cig.

Think we'd all have a bright vaping future after that?

Forget any idea of handling, or even obtaining, pure nicotine. Just the request from a private person can bring the Department of Homeland Security down on you.

[paladinx]

thats what scares me also. that nicotine is such a deadly chemical in even small dosages. Sometimes I think that if one of these e-juice producers accidentally put in too much nicotine and someone died it would have the same harmful consequences for us.

[Drewsworld]

FYI...The nicotine that is USP and still availabel in 100ml bottles is advertised on 2 or 3 sites for Under $10 a botttle and is also described as 100% nicotine..those crafty enough to submit the propper paperwork like possibly the OP (ANIMALDR) ie Animal Doctor, would be dissapointed when it showed up in a plastic bottle that reads,...PLEASE WASH HANDS AFTER EXPERIMENTING...Also it is the equivalent to 100ml of water>>>Total Nicotine content= 1 Cigarette... This was never Pure Nicotine...Ask me how I know this?...Well if anyone wants to buy a bottle, I will save you the Hazardous shiiping on it...You could take a shower in this stuff and the only thing that would happen is youd stink for a coupla days....And if your stomach is strong enough to vape it , I garuntee you wont be vaping it for long....I actually found the link on this site and did the same calculations that the OP did and figured I would put a hasmat suit on and mix it in the woods... I still have the hasmat suit too if any ones interested....The up side is I dont have any bugs around my house or at least where I threw the junk out anyway....