I found 99% pure Nicotine is my math right?

[TropicalBob]

Vapor Pete: Senators don't know we exist -- and don't care. But young aides looking to advance in the office pool do surf the Internet for anything that might interest a politician, or could be used as political fodder. The anti groups likely have their own little Web surfers, too. Never assume what you write will not be seen, and used, by your enemies.

[DarkriftX]

I would like to see a company that has the means to order and handle this (maybe someone here?) who can purchase large quantities of almost pure nic and cut it for us to legal/safe amounts. The reasoning would be mostly for users here wanting a cheaper bulk.

[tomzgreat]

This is the final math. Please check it if I'm right.

Normally a Gram = Ml

There are 1000 micro grams in a gm

That means that there are 1000mg of nicotine in a ml of what you are purchasing.
There are roughly 33 drops in a ML
that means that every drop has 33mg of nicotine.

Now the ejuice I bought that was 36mg had 3.6% Nicotine so 1000ml of juice would
have 36mg a big drop not a small drop!!.

By my calculations to make 1000ml (1 liter) of 36mg juice you'd add one drop
and if by accident you swallowed a drop that would be equal to ingesting
1000ml or 1 liter of the highest retail solution readily available on the market.

You can ignore the dire warnings but do the math!!!

That is way too strong to be casually playing around with.
How much goes airborne. If you spill it and it gets on your skin
would a drops worth be absorbed. By my calculation fractions of a drop would
be lethal

Even if my math is wrong by a decimal point it's still beyond dangerous.
Please everyone check my math.

[ramblingrose]

Originally Posted by tomzgreat

I found Nicotine USP 99% pure around $60.00 for 25ml... I'm still not sure if I'm going to go through with it because I'm uncomfortable about dealing with a product where 1 cc is lethal.

At the risk of being a killjoy, here's a multi-quote from an old thread about this:

Originally Posted by radiokaos
PLEASE DON"T BE STUPID.

Guys please do us all a favor and stay away from that stuff. Not only will it kill you. But before hand you could have the police knocking on your door thinking you might be a terrorist. Pure and high levels like that are left for the professional. Not some back yard setup. There are also local laws that you could be breaking when messing with this stuff. People have mentioned this before, so let me get my popcorn since this should be a fun response.

Originally Posted by ramblingrose

PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID. Yes, that's the perfect response.

Safety issued have been well covered; I'll just add one more point: If you think its a problem getting supplies in the country now, imagine what will happen after the inevitable accident. It will only take one misadventure for the media, the antis and government to be all over e-cigs as the worst invention of the century.

Personally, I cringe every time I see people posting about the possibility. Beyond the safety issues, don't forget that we're trying to gain acceptance, not notoriety. An anti can easily come into the forum, read these posts and (rightfully) use them as strong fuel to the arguments against e-cigs. Proponents of our hobby might rethink their view, as well.

Noobs, PLEASE get the thought of saving by making your own nicLiquid out of your heads.

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

Bravo, RamlingRose, and never have times been as critical for e-smoking as they are RIGHT NOW. Imagine the impact of a front page story in the Washington Post Monday morning that some idiot managed to get pure nicotine -- a terrorists wet dream -- and then killed himself and his family trying to make e-liquid for his e-cig.

Think we'd all have a bright vaping future after that?

Forget any idea of handling, or even obtaining, pure nicotine. Just the request from a private person can bring the Department of Homeland Security down on you.

Please think about it.

[HighTech]

Originally Posted by tomzgreat

I found Nicotine USP 99% pure around $60.00 for 25ml.
I'm trying to figure out how to use it.

My math says that if I add 1 ml for every 30ml bottle than I'd be at 3% or 30mg per ml.

Is this math right?. By the way I'm not going to mention where I found this chemical because some idiot would probably try huffing it pure, but if you search the forums very hard you can find the place.

It's a legitimate American Company not catering to the smoke industry.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to go through with it because I'm uncomfortable about dealing with a product where 1 cc is lethal.

Also this is Nicotine USP which seems to be different from the nicotine that the manufacturers of ejuice are putting in there products. Would it smoke differently.?

Yes, and here's the kicker...

Mg is a measurement of weight and mL is a measurement of volume. Nicotine in it's pure form is a liquid. So when you see 36mg juice, or any other mg denomination for that matter, one has to wonder 36 mg of what kind of nicotine? Is the nicotine part pure or is it a diluted solution? If not pure, then we must also ask if 36mg of pure nicotine in a juice would be safe. Also we must take into consideration, are we to believe China manufacturers actually put 36 mg in their juice? Is that really just nicotine in the nicotine portion or are there other processing chemicals included that we are inhaling? China does not have a favorable reputation for including components that it advertises on the labels...

I think it's time for some HPLC testing...

[Minimike]

I believe the measurement is along the lines of - mg in a gram. IE 36mg juice = one gram of juice contains 36 milligrams of nicotine or a 3.6% solution.

The carrier (PG or VG) would have to weigh 1 gram/ml for the posers in here to be right. Do PG and/or VG weigh 1 gram/ml, or more?

[OutWest]

Originally Posted by Minimike

I believe the measurement is along the lines of - mg in a gram. IE 36mg juice = one gram of juice contains 36 milligrams of nicotine or a 3.6% solution.

The carrier (PG or VG) would have to weigh 1 gram/ml for the posers in here to be right. Do PG and/or VG weigh 1 gram/ml, or more?

One gram of PG is 0.96527 ml Dunno what VG works out to.

[Chasm]

Originally Posted by geeker

99 mg/mL and you might be ok.

I have a feeling what you've found might be way more concentrated...

Again, please be careful!

FWIW pure nicotine has a density of 1.01 gm/ml (Google it) or 1010 mg/ml