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Old 06-22-2009, 12:52 AM   #1
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Default I found 99% pure Nicotine is my math right?

I found Nicotine USP 99% pure around $60.00 for 25ml.
I'm trying to figure out how to use it.

My math says that if I add 1 ml for every 30ml bottle than I'd be at 3% or 30mg per ml.

Is this math right?. By the way I'm not going to mention where I found this chemical because some idiot would probably try huffing it pure, but if you search the forums very hard you can find the place.

It's a legitimate American Company not catering to the smoke industry.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to go through with it because I'm uncomfortable about dealing with a product where 1 cc is lethal.

Also this is Nicotine USP which seems to be different from the nicotine that the manufacturers of ejuice are putting in there products. Would it smoke differently.?
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:55 AM   #2
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I recommend you go read the DIY section and warning and actually not even think about it..........you need hazmat suits and more

it's not worth it
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I found Nicotine USP 99% pure around $60.00 for 25ml.
I'm trying to figure out how to use it.

My math says that if I add 1 ml for every 30ml bottle than I'd be at 3% or 30mg per ml.

Is this math right?. By the way I'm not going to mention where I found this chemical because some idiot would probably try huffing it pure, but if you search the forums very hard you can find the place.

It's a legitimate American Company not catering to the smoke industry.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to go through with it because I'm uncomfortable about dealing with a product where 1 cc is lethal.

Also this is Nicotine USP which seems to be different from the nicotine that the manufacturers of ejuice are putting in there products. Would it smoke differently.?
Do you mind me asking what Company this is? It dosen't sound right to me.
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Oh man that's crazy nicotine is a super poison I'm good on this one no need for me to die.
Be careful man your playing with fire
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I know of a place in the UK that also supplies a similar sounding nicotine preparation. You could enquire about buying a diluted quantity that would be much safer to for posting and handling. In the UK, 7% is the max. Perhaps ask if they will dilute that 25ml in PG to a strength of 3.6%.

I would strongly warn against trying to get it undiluted, but if they will provide it diluted to normal 'high' strength juice, it would be a clean-vaping nicotine juice. Just add your flavorings and dilute further as required.

If you can get it this way, it will be a much better juice to use as a base - rather than the tobacco soak version normally, I believe, used for e-juice; no dry residue to gunk up the atomizer.

Offer to pay more to cover the PG and performing the dilution; and the extra postage for what would then be 3/4 (three quaters) of a litre. Perhaps $100. Not bad for such a big quantity

ps: I suggest keeping the company name secret for now and enquire calmly, perhaps suggesting they could have a new business line here. Much better than the company getting pissed-off by a sudden barrage of enquiries.
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I would think that in the USA it would not be legal, and not knowing it's not legal will not help you any. Even if legal in one state, it may not be in another state and even then from city to city.

The risk are very high and you'll be on the hook for them, you can't just sit at your table and pour this into PG. Because if you spill some, it will go through the skin and even much smaller amounts would kill kids and animals.
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Quite a bunch of nannies in here.

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, a person works with/handles high voltage all day. Or even works with high strength insecticides daily. Perhaps they work with concentrated arsenic on the job. What is to to keep them from handling nicotine safely?
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Quite a bunch of nannies in here.

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, a person works with/handles high voltage all day. Or even works with high strength insecticides daily. Perhaps they work with concentrated arsenic on the job. What is to to keep them from handling nicotine safely?
I work with high voltage systems, and I would not recommend it to anyone, unless I knew beyond a doubt that they were qualified. How well do you know the OP?
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I found Nicotine USP 99% pure around $60.00 for 25ml.
I'm trying to figure out how to use it.

My math says that if I add 1 ml for every 30ml bottle than I'd be at 3% or 30mg per ml.

Is this math right?. By the way I'm not going to mention where I found this chemical because some idiot would probably try huffing it pure, but if you search the forums very hard you can find the place.

It's a legitimate American Company not catering to the smoke industry.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to go through with it because I'm uncomfortable about dealing with a product where 1 cc is lethal.

Also this is Nicotine USP which seems to be different from the nicotine that the manufacturers of ejuice are putting in there products. Would it smoke differently.?
How are you arriving at 36 mg? Do you know the concentration of the nicotine your're buying? Chemicals are usually g/L. If you want mg, you have to divide by 1000. I you have 1 mL of 1 g/L nicotine, not matter what the volume you purchase would be, you would need 36 uL (microliters) in 1 mL of diluent to be 36 mg.

In other words, 99% pure isn't informative enough to work out a mg solution. You need to find out how many mg are in 1 mL of your chemical.

Yes, I am a chemist.
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How are you arriving at 36 mg? Do you know the concentration of the nicotine your're buying? Chemicals are usually g/L. If you want mg, you have to divide by 1000. I you have 1 mL of 1 g/L nicotine, not matter what the volume you purchase would be, you would need 36 uL (microliters) in 1 mL of diluent to be 36 mg.

In other words, 99% pure isn't informative enough to work out a mg solution. You need to find out how many mg are in 1 mL of your chemical.

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