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| Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia, USA
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| Kreel: True to form in so many of your posts on this forum …. You are caustic, negative, not helpful and tend to jump to a response without much thought as to the reason for a question. If you think the question is silly, why do you waste time responding to it ?? Get another hobby and quit putting people down for asking honest questions and realize that NO ONE will hold it against you if you just keep quiet when you don’t have anything positive to contribute. And yes, I am well aware there are many links to every subject/question on this forum. But with such a specific request for information, I simply do not have the time to sort through all the links. Now … relieved of steam … let me clarify the reason for this question. I am IN NO WAY concerned about the “safety” of ecigs vs. analogs. I am interested in the science of the effect of nicotine in the body and the addiction/habit of smoking. Why ?? Because, I hope to use the ecigs to eventually quit smoking by slowly scaling back on vaping or nicotine content. Cigarette smoking if FULL of variables ranging from the brand smoked, brand nicotine content, the smokers style of smoking/inhaling, the “hand-to-mouth” habit satisfaction, etc. All of these factors figure into nicotine levels in the body and the “comfort” of the “smoker or quitter.” Among the many things I’m curious to know is: 1) Are the ecigs I’m using giving me the same nicotine levels as the analogs I smoked, even though I seem to inhale differently and get different levels of “vape” with each draw? 2) Since vaping is so much more convenient that smoking, am I “over smoking” and getting more nicotine than I did with analogs? These questions could be easily answered if you could measure actual nicotine levels. Additionally, as vaping is a “new science,” many prospective vapers, curious smokers and disgusted non-smokers, etc., will have questions about how similar vs. dissimilar the “nicotine habit” is. It would be nice to have some “hard-core, scientific information” regarding my own personal experience with both. And FYI, Keel, I do not work for the FDA but I do have a research nursing background. |
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| Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 90
| Kreel: True to form in so many of your posts on this forum …. You are caustic, negative, not helpful and tend to jump to a response without much thought as to the reason for a question. If you think the question is silly, why do you waste your time responding to it ?? Get another hobby and quit putting people down for asking honest questions and realize that NO ONE will hold it against you if you just keep quiet when you don’t have anything positive to contribute. And yes, I am well aware there are many links to every subject/question on this forum. But with such a specific request for information, I simply do not have the time to sort through all the links. Now … relieved of steam … let me clarify the reason for this question. I am IN NO WAY concerned about the “safety” of ecigs vs. analogs. I am interested in the science of the effect of nicotine in the body and the addiction/habit of smoking. Why ?? Because, I hope to use the ecigs to eventually quit smoking by slowly scaling back on vaping or nicotine content. Cigarette smoking if FULL of variables ranging from the brand smoked, brand nicotine content, the smokers style of smoking/inhaling, the “hand-to-mouth” habit satisfaction, etc. All of these factors figure into nicotine levels in the body and the “comfort” of the “smoker or quitter.” Among the many things I’m curious to know is: 1) Are the ecigs I’m using giving me the same nicotine levels as the analogs I smoked, even though I seem to inhale differently and get different levels of “vape” with each draw? 2) Since vaping is so much more convenient that smoking, am I “over smoking” and getting more nicotine than I did with analogs? These questions could be easily answered if you could measure actual nicotine levels. Additionally, as vaping is a “new science,” many prospective vapers, curious smokers and disgusted non-smokers, etc., will have questions about how similar vs. dissimilar the “nicotine habit” is. It would be nice to have some “hard-core, scientific information” regarding my own personal experience with both. And FYI, Keel, I do not work for the FDA but I do have a research nursing background. |
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| Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia, USA
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Thank you for an intelligent, thoughtful response from a sensitive and intuitive forum member. You have made accurate assumptions regarding the reason for my interest in nicotine levels in the body.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany
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Hi JoAnna, always good to meet an inquisitive mind. There are (semi-)quantitative tests available to determine the cotinine levels (a metabolite of nicotine) in urine. Brands include TobacAlert (Nymox) and Smokescreen (GFC Diagnostics). Keep us posted on what you might get in your experiments. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009
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I'm doubting there is a test like that, you would most likily have to get your blood analyzed in a lab. And I agree with Kreel this question has been done to death. |
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| Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Jersey USA
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| Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vapin Hot Florida
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| | #19 |
| Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 90
| Both tests sound just like what I'm looking for. Next week I will call and see how much they costs and how many tests you get from each kit. Thanks soooo much for the information !!! |
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| Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: West Texas
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I guess if there is such a test, the government will get the bright idea that it knows better than we how much nicotine we need. Is there a test for how much caffeine is in your blood? Honestly, who cares? This is highly suspicious. A 'research nurse' should know already that vaping is healthier than smoking. She should be asking about how many drops fill a cart like every other noob. Yeah, the FDA has feelers out alright. They have absolutely zero power unless they can prove that vapers are abusing nicotine more than a regular marlboro smoker. This is ridiculous on it's face EDIT -- vaping nicotine is a replacement for something far worse. The FDA is looking for claims being made that it is a smoking cessation device. To my knowledge it isn't. Nicotine is just as addictive vaping as it is smoking. We just don't get all the carcinogens. It's a personal choice if you wish it to be such, and good luck with that. Please don't try to draw nicotine hooked vapers into a thread about quitting. We aren't quitters. .
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