Home Test for Nicotine Blood Levels ???

[YKruss]

Kate,

Based on your test results the answer to this thread Do you smoke? Y/N would be:
"NO".

Am I correct?

[Kate51]

That's the way I see it, YKruss, I'm not just blowing smoke. I just like a little nicotine with my fog. To me that's no worse on my body than drinking caffeinated coffee. If I didn't feel as good as I do I would not be saying that.

[YKruss]

Your results gave me a little (or big?) relieve.

The point is that if we, vapers, get as little nicotine in our system as your test shows then that amount probably will not have a great effect on cardio-vascular system which I have concern about.

All I know that my blood pressure stays the same measured in the morning when I wake up and second time after vaping 18mg nic using Janty Stick for half an hour.

[Kate51]

Nicotine absorbtion from vaping research

This was posted by Kate

[Tom09]

urine vs. saliva test

The levels of cotinine in urine, blood and salvia are highly correlated. Concentrations in blood and salvia are nearly the same, and typical urine to blood ratio is about 5. I think that the TobacAlert test strips for urine(U) and their test strips for salvia(S) show the same classes (level 0 - level 6), but differ in the respective cotinine concentrations. One could check back with Nymox and ask about the principal difference between their salvia and urine test strips. I expect this difference to be the concentrations, concentrations only. Therefore, testing salvia on the TobacAlert(S) strips designed for salvia should have the same limitation as testing urine on the TobacAlert(U) strips designed for urine.

However, the correlation between the salvia and urine cotinine concentrations may allow to overcome the relatively low cutoff of the TobacAlert(U) test strips. For example, running with a urine to salvia ratio of 5, assume sampling a person with actual concentrations of cotinine(U) = 2000 ng/ml and the equivalent cotinine(S) = 400 ng/ml. The urine sample would show up as level 6 on the TobacAlert(U) strip, corresponding to a reading of > 1000 ng/ml cotinine(U). A salva sample on the TobacAlert(U) strip, however, would return level 4, now corresponding to a reading of 200-500 ng/ml cotinine(S) or the equivalent of 1000-2500 ng/ml cotinine(U). In other words: putting salvia, instead of urine, on the test strip designed for urine should allow to quantify concentrations of cotinine(U) up to the 5000 ng/ml concentration level. This would lower the resolution, but extend the range for cotinine(U) measurements by a factor of five (approx.).

[Kate51]

I think you hit the nail right on the head!! What you said. Couldn't have said it better myself
Exactly right. THANK YOU for doing that. I have been able to find NO research data on cigarette smoking testing on saliva, would that still correlate with plasma testing numbers? Easier to find data, a couple I wanted to see but price too high $25 for PDF.
Just for purpose of cig vs PV numbers, which a lot of people want to know, i.e., how am I comparing now from then.
Also, concentration of cotinine in urine is a factor of 10x, correct? So how would that configure the test numbers for saliva using a urine strip? If you can figure that out I'll give you another Smiley!

[rejoice]

Kate51, What PV do you use? The reason I am asking is,the high volt e-cigs may deliver a higher dose of nicotine. Most that get one has to lower there nicotine dose.
I still am using the 24mg with the high volt. I was never satisfied with the 24Mg with the regular e-cigs. The 36mg was too much.

[Kate51]

I tend to agree with that, rejoice, seems fair to assume the more vapor the more nic delivered per hit. I started with an NPro, but found the cart too small, constant re-filling, so went to an 801 penstyle, and got a Janty Stick on June 1st, to get away from those expensive and credulous batteries but keep the huge cart size. Very pleased with it, keeps me satisfied with 24mg/ml juice and I'm not vaping constantly as before, I think I have cut back maybe as much as 15% or so...the 36mg juice made me sick!!!! I found the same juices also taste different with different PV models as well. I never tried the GG, so don't know how it compares with the JS power-wise. It uses a ICR10440 360mAh battery.

[bearscreek]

This is great information to have. I really appreciate the fact that you're doing the tests and sharing your results. I can tell I'm not getting as much nicotine in my system as I used to. In fact, my nicotine probably would have been satisfied by a cigarette every 3 to 4 to maybe even 5 hours, but just out of habit I smoked way more than that. Thanks again for sharing.

[JoAnna1010]

Just wanted to update you all on my Tobac Alert Test results.

I FINALLY received my 5-pack test kits early this week. I ordered them directly from the company and they took forever to ship it to me. At least it was a lot cheaper than buying it from Drugstore.com.

Anyway, I performed my "baseline" test. I got a 66, the highest level. I had been smoking 3-4 analogs a day along with lots of vaping using various medium - high eliquids.

Then, 4 days later, I performed another test. This time, I had only smoked ecigs for the preceeding 3 days. Again I got a 66.

So...now, I am waiting for about 2 weeks until after I get back from a trip to see my family. (Believe me!!! I will need all the nicotine I can get for this trip!!!) At that point, I am going to smoke only Zero nic ecig liquid for 3 days. Then I will perform another test to see how much my nicotine (cotinine) level has dropped down.

I guess the results of my tests so far show me that I was getting a lot of nicotine from analogs and ecigs. And....that when I only smoked the ecig....I was getting the same amount of nicotine levels.

While this is good and explains why I am not having the "nicotine twitches" using ecigs, I hope to eventually start to withdraw from nicotine dependence alltogether by using lower nic and zero nic. It's obvious, I'll have to work on that one !!

Anyway, just wanted to update you on the Tobac Alert test results we had been discussing a week or so ago. Will get back to you all when I have the other test completed.